Hi

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Payam Heidary wrote:
> There are people who hold Ph.D.'s who are not
> qualified to be college professors just like there are
> people with Master's degree who are not qualified.
> What makes you qualified and what should determine
> your pay is NOT which TYPE of degree you hold (MA vs.
> Ph.D.) but instead what you put into getting the
> degree (QUALITY of the degree) while you were working
> to earn it. For example, there are people who have
> published more and have more teaching experiences with
> a Master's degree than some people do with Ph.D.'s.
> This is what I mean about the QUALITY rather than the
> TYPE of degree that really matters. This is another
> big MYTH in our field about types of degrees
> mattering.

The difference between MA and PhD is not a difference in type.  
It is a difference in level.  Just as the MA is a more advanced
degree than the BA, the PhD is a more advanced degree than the
MA.  The existence of exceptions to a correlation does not negate
the existence of a correlation.  I would certainly not denigrate
your achievements by saying that the average person with a BA
could do the same job as the average person with an MA (and would
probably do it for even less money).  The same should be
appreciated about the achievements of those who went on to
complete a PhD (with some exceptions, as you noted).  To not even
value the distinctions between no degree, BA, MA, and PhD is to
discredit the very thing that we are trying to impart to
students ... i.e., an increasingly demanding level of
education.  As a final comment on this point, many institutions,
my own included, will _not_ be considering people without PhDs
for regular, full-time positions, which considerably reduces
potential positions for people with doctorates, even if the
purse-strings were opened up a lot.

Best wishes
Jim

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