I share the pet peeve about the "How long should this paper be?" question. The 
question suggests that students are not thinking about writing a paper to make an 
argument or tell a story, but rather to complete an assignment. My "peeve" is with 
both the student and others who have been teaching them to write. It seems that my 
students have *always* been told that a paper of less then X pages will not receive a 
good grade so they are accustomed to writing to fill the length requirement. When this 
question comes up it does give me a chance to talk about how to determine an 
appropriate length for their papers and the need for them to judge when they have made 
the argument to their own satisfaction. That kind of discussion before they start 
writing does help to reduce the transition problems and distracting asides that have 
already been mentioned. It also helps them to see how to start and finish the 
introduction to a research paper or review. 

Dennis

Dennis M. Goff
Professor of Psychology
Randolph-Macon Woman's College
2500 Rivermont Ave
Lynchburg VA, 24503


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul C. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:59 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Re: Writing Pet Peeves


Robin Abrahams wrote:

> You've hit it with the "insufficient attention to the meaning of words"
thing, I think. It's a profound problem with a lot of them.
>
> This weekend I saw our school production of "Anything Goes," and noticed
immediately that the students had the same problem as actors that they do as
writers. > They simply weren't listening to what was coming out of their
mouths, they weren't hearing the words they were speaking. Just as they do
not read the words they > are writing.

    I think that many of the "writing errors" we see stem from
misconceptions about the task. These misconceptions include those about the
purposes of the elements of a research paper, those about what is signalled
to the reader by citation/quotation practices (MANY students believe that
merely citing a source entitles them to use the exact words of that source),
and those about writing itself (the "insufficient attention to meaning"
thing, for example).

    About every other semester I get papers from students who seem to have a
"paint a picture with words" model of writing. The papers don't actually
make any points, but rather talk around a topic, with lots of vague
comments. Those are the hardest papers to write feedback for, as there's
really nothing to organize or support. My feedback essentially amounts to
"start over, but have something to say this time".
    I also get quite a few papers that suggest that the student believes
that her job as a psychology major is to learn to repeat the "conventional
wisdom". These tend to be papers about "body image" ("In today's society,
the media tells women they should look like Barbie dolls...") and/or self
esteem. I suspect that these papers come from the students who brag at
graduation that they really already knew what they needed to know about
psychology before they started the program. Hmm.

    I also have a "pet peeve" that comes before the writing issues: the
inevitable "how many pages long does it have to be?" question. I'm reminded
of Abe Lincoln's response to "How long should a man's legs be?": "Long
enough to reach the ground". I want a good paper, and I don't really care
how long it is. I honestly don't think I've ever counted the pages of a
completed paper, or given any indication that I do so, but students _always_
ask how long it has to be.

Paul Smith
Alverno College
Milwaukee


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