Not being an expert IRB person, though it seems I'm getting there these days...

I would think the IRB should let you know that the study is okay as is, but final approval is contingent on the letter of support/agreement from the principal/district. So, review should be able to happen before you get the letter, but final approval would depend on the agreement of the site. This would prevent you (or the students) having to go back to the school with a "revised" plan. Our IRB has a similar requirement for off-site data collection.

Right now I'm dealing with a similar issue in that I'm completing my dissertation at one University but collecting the data somewhere else. As a result, both institutions want the IRB "approval" of the other before granting final approval... what I've worked out is that they both will let me know that it is "tentatively" approved awaiting on approval of the other, then I can send that information to both at which point they can then both say everything is okay... seems like there should be an easier way, but so far neither IRB is willing to give full approval until they know the other one says it is okay. I think this is because if one turns me down they don't want me to come back and say "well, the IRB at University X thought it was okay, so why don't you..." or to think that IRB approval at one place implies approval at the other...

- Marc

At 07:36 PM 3/17/2004, you wrote:
students in local public schools.  All the students have prepared the
appropriate consents and assents as required by Human Subjects.  The
school districts or schools do not have IRBs.  These are not Psych
...
(and have told students to do the same).  Now, the IRB is saying that
students have to submit the written approval from the principal with the
Human Subjects application.  As the faculty co-sponsor, this seems quite
...
So, I guess the bottom line is:  Procedurally, is it required to get
off-site approval prior to the IRB review?


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G. Marc Turner, MEd, Network+, MCP
Instructor & Head of Computer Operations
Department of Psychology
Texas State University-San Marcos
San Marcos, TX 78666
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