When I had these issues in the past, I explained to the IRB that principals would likely want to know that my study was approved by the IRB prior to granting approval. My IRB decided this was reasonable. I was then required to submitt the letter from the principal to the IRB prior to collecting data.
Joe Joseph J. Horton Ph. D. Faculty Box 2694 Grove City College Grove City, PA 16127 (724) 458-2004 In God we trust, all others must bring data. -----Original Message----- From: G. Marc Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:55 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: Off site written consent before IRB review Not being an expert IRB person, though it seems I'm getting there these days... I would think the IRB should let you know that the study is okay as is, but final approval is contingent on the letter of support/agreement from the principal/district. So, review should be able to happen before you get the letter, but final approval would depend on the agreement of the site. This would prevent you (or the students) having to go back to the school with a "revised" plan. Our IRB has a similar requirement for off-site data collection. Right now I'm dealing with a similar issue in that I'm completing my dissertation at one University but collecting the data somewhere else. As a result, both institutions want the IRB "approval" of the other before granting final approval... what I've worked out is that they both will let me know that it is "tentatively" approved awaiting on approval of the other, then I can send that information to both at which point they can then both say everything is okay... seems like there should be an easier way, but so far neither IRB is willing to give full approval until they know the other one says it is okay. I think this is because if one turns me down they don't want me to come back and say "well, the IRB at University X thought it was okay, so why don't you..." or to think that IRB approval at one place implies approval at the other... - Marc At 07:36 PM 3/17/2004, you wrote: >students in local public schools. All the students have prepared the >appropriate consents and assents as required by Human Subjects. The >school districts or schools do not have IRBs. These are not Psych ... >(and have told students to do the same). Now, the IRB is saying that >students have to submit the written approval from the principal with the >Human Subjects application. As the faculty co-sponsor, this seems quite ... >So, I guess the bottom line is: Procedurally, is it required to get >off-site approval prior to the IRB review? ============================================= G. Marc Turner, MEd, Network+, MCP Instructor & Head of Computer Operations Department of Psychology Texas State University-San Marcos San Marcos, TX 78666 phone: (512)245-2526 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ########################################### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
