Hi

James M. Clark
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>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06-Apr-07 4:37:00 PM >>>
Quoting Jim Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> When we teach students to think critically, to use science and reason to
> arrive at conclusions about the world, do we (or should we) be teaching them
> that there are certain domains (e.g., religion, morals, tradition, ...) to
> which these principles ought not to be applied?

Funny, that would be, to a first approximation, the solution arrived at by
Thomas Aquinas, which had the dual result of (1) opening the church of the high
middle ages to science and philosophy (contrary to what most non-philosophers
seem to assume, philosophy was regarded by conservatives of the middle ages as
a dangerous rational alternative to theology), and (2) getting Thomas
canonized.

It was a great moment in the history of reason, and for a long while European
civilization (and its new world offshoots) steadily built upon its foundation,
leading eventually to Jim's second point that (for a time) many of us:

> maintain[ed] that science and reason should be core to all our beliefs
> (and ideally our behaviors), to the extent that is possible.

But now it would appear that we have slid back to the point where we are going
to have to fight all these (very) old battles all over again. Sigh.

JC:

Because a solution was adequate in the past does not make it desirable today or 
even adequate.  Many scientists are directly addressing areas of religion left 
unaddressed in the past, as at the following site on the evolution of morality 
(http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~mnkylab/) and as implied in Bob Parks recent 
e-mail distributions.  Nor is it likely that the cognitive tools we could use 
today to debate this issue are limited to those available in the past, any more 
than an ancient army would have much chance against the modern military.

>From BobParks:
5. GOD AND SCIENCE: THE SEARCH FOR MEANING IN THE NATURAL WORLD.  
We got some angry e-mail this week about the line "Better a God
particle than a God."  A gratuitous slap in the face of people of
faith?  Not meant to be, but all of science is built on territory
once occupied by gods.  Is there some boundary at which science
is supposed to stop?  Keep the letters coming.  We read them all,
and answer as many as we can. 

Take care
Jim



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