Hi Don. For a good study that (in my opinion) satisfies your 
requirement for a high-action no-violence group, take a look at 
Carnagey and Anderson (2005). Ps played either a violent version of 
Carmageddon 2, a version where violence was punished (points were 
lost for killing people/hitting objects, and a no-violence version 
(same game) where violence wasn't possible. Aggressive affect, 
cognition, and behavior all differed in the reward compared to the 
no-violence group, and aggressive cognition and behavior differed 
between the reward and the punishment groups.

Also, what about the meta-analysis done by Anderson and Bushman 
(2001), which found no gender diffs and no diffs as a function of 
experimental vs. correlation studies? Granted, the rs were all in the 
range of .16-.27, but as the authors note, the average effect size 
was the same as that between condom use and the prevention of HIV. Do 
we take that association seriously?

-- Mark

At 02:06 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote:


>It's this kind of junk science that really gets my goat. It is 
>highly reminiscent of Frederick Wertham's "Seduction of the 
>Innocent" which set off a frenzy for banning comic books because 
>they were corrupting our children. For those of you who are too 
>young to remember this era you can find a good discussion of it here:
>
><http://art-bin.com/art/awertham.html>http://art-bin.com/art/awertham.html
>
>I have reviewed the literature that purports to show a causal link 
>between media violence and violent behaviour in children and I 
>remain highly unimpressed. Most of the studies are correlational and 
>even there the correlations are weak (.20 to .30). The studies that 
>actually attempt to manipulate exposure to violent media are all 
>badly flawed. They merely compare children who watched a violent 
>video (or played a violent video game) with children who watched a 
>non-violent version. What's wrong with that? Well, for one thing the 
>violent media were also action-packed while the non-violent 
>comparitors were dull as dishwater. Since violence and action are 
>confounded in these studies you need a third group (high action-no 
>violence) to determine which component produces the effect. So far, 
>I have been unable to find a properly controlled replicated studies 
>that clearly establishes a causal link. Until I see one I'll remain 
>in the skeptics corner.
>
>-Don.
>
>Christopher D. Green wrote:
>>
>>
>>Check out this Times (of London) article on British efforts to put 
>>warning labels on video games.
>><http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3628894.ece>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3628894.ece
>>
>>Chris Green
>>York U.
>>Toronto, Canada
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