Don Allen wrote:
> Well, I certainly agree that violent behaviour is multiply determined. 
> However, before I started getting concerned about violent media I'd 
> look at the statistics comparing the US and Canada in terms of 
> Violence. Here is some recent date which compares major US and 
> Canadian cities:
>
> Crime Rates - Selected North American Cities
> (per 100,000 population) 
>   Cities            Homicides          Robberies [...]
>  Chicago, IL        15.5                552.0 [...]
>  Toronto, ON        2.0                 108.5 
>
>   
"Our" kids have the pacifying effects of the CBC.
(Oh yes, and then there is public health care, decent unemployment 
insurance, and a modicum of gun control.)
:-)


And as for this:

>                          nonviolent games     violent games
> did not become shooters          66                 34
> became shooters                  34                 66
>
> What percent of the variance do you thnk playing video games 
> accounted for~ If you said 9%, you're right (r = .30). Is this a 
> trivial effect~


What this mainly shows is that correlation coefficients are often not 
very good effect size measures.
Although the r-squared is only .09, the odds ratio here is about 4.0 
(i.e., if these data were real, you would be about 4 times more likely 
to be a "shooter" if you played violent games).

There is an interesting discussion of this issue in David Howell's 
(large) statistics textbook.

Regards,
Chris
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