On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Daniel Kruger wrote:

> I remember seeing lectures on the Turin Shroud as a child.  As a
> semi-avid coin collector, I wondered why the coins resting on the
> eyelids were so worn (this was before the carbon dating).  
> Producing religious relics was a cottage industry in the middle
> ages.  If this shroud was faked, someone went through a lot of
> effort...maybe even as far as collecting some indigenous plants.  I
> also wonder about the poor man's European features, wouldn't Jesus
> be more Mediterranean?

There is a host of evidence that the Shroud was a fake, including a
report from a church official of the time of the Shroud's 'discovery' of
a confession by the artist that produced it.  The radio-carbon dating to
the same time ended the discussion for all but the most ardent
believers.

As to the pollen data, check out

 http://www.mcri.org/Shroud.html

for a more objective view.

To get on topic, I think it's interesting that some people are so
desperate to hang on to this obvious forgery (for example, careful
examination shows that if it -were- a burial cloth, the deceased would
have had an extremely pointy head) as evidence for something that is
supposedly a matter of faith.

bob k.

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