Although I do talk about these sites in my Soc. Psych class and suggest 
students explore them in relation to social psych concepts we cover, I have 
always felt there is much there that is missing from social psych research.  
For example, as Nancy noted, whenever you set up a quasi-formal organizational 
network you get people who "game the system" and try to  reap recognition, 
dates, or other forms of satisfaction that are not part of the explicit aims of 
the system.  Is this tendency related to the seemingly inherent tendencies 
toward corruption and system manipulation we see in social welfare 
bureaucracies and political networks (witness the U.S. Congress ;-).  Perhaps 
this is more researched in political science or sociology?   Gary




Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. 
Professor, Department of Psychology 
Saginaw Valley State University 
University Center, MI 48710 
989-964-4491 
[email protected] 

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Subject: Re: [tips] Matchmaker, Matchmaker, Make Me A Match!




As a battle scarred veteran of these sites (too many to count) I am sure they 
probably are better than singles bars but not much. 

For women, the main problem (besides the escalation of mispresentation - 
certainly possible in "real world" dating; much more prevalent in online 
dating) is that it appears that a fairly large number of males on these sites 
are either married or living with someone. It appears that online dating gives 
the male style of cheating a real helping hand - men sign up as "single" and 
the pickings are fairly easy (women tend to cheat with familiar men, so it 
doesn't work so well for them, although I have no doubt that there are a few 
married or attached women on these sites also. 

For men, a lot of the women seem to be looking for "free meals". They date 
serially with no intention of being serious and reap those benefits. 

For both sexes, the number of people posting pictures from 10 years or 50 
pounds ago is disheartening. 

And it's really disappointing to see what a sell out Fisher has become. I have 
very little respect for her, although she has a right to get rich any 
legitimate way she can. 

I've not given up but am rapidly concluding that if I find a suitable partner, 
it will most likely not be from an online dating or matchmaking site. 

Just my hard-won .02 

Nancy Melucci 
Long Beach City College 
Long Beach CA 




-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Palij <[email protected]> 
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) <[email protected]> 
Cc: Mike Palij <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 5:36 am 
Subject: [tips] Matchmaker, Matchmaker, Make Me A Match! 


There is an interesting little article in the NY Times about the "relationship"
websites that have come into existence that try to match people on some
criteria in the hopes that they form a long-lasting relationship.  See: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/business/07stream.html?th&emc=th These 
websites are not geared toward personal ads for people seeking 
a date, rather, as might be expected, some of these websites use 
psychological testing or even biological testing for match-making.  
Consider:

(1)  ScientificMatch.com matches people up on the basis of genetic
analysis, such as markers for the immune system as well as some
defintively non-biological markers (e.g., criminal and bankruptcy
check, verificiation of age and marital status, etc.)

(2)  Chemistry.com (a subsidiary of Match.com) has biological
anthropologist Helen Fisher create a questionnaire about a person's
traits and temperament.  A quote from Fisher provides some insight
into her views:

|“If Helen Fisher can give you right off the bat individuals that your 
|brain is more likely to be attracted to,” she says, “so much the better.”

Apparently, in matters of romance, one should focus on the brain
and not the mind.  Also, beware of people who refer to themselves
in the third person.

(3) eHarmony.com was developed by a psychologist (his name is
not given in the article but he has appeared and been identified on
eHarmony's TV commercials -- I don't remember it though) whose
experience is in marriage counseling and tries to match people on
the basis of self-reproted values, family background, and social
styles.

How successful are these services?  That depends upon how one
defines success.  It is unclear how many "successful" long-term
relationships have been created by these services but they do 
constitute about a $976 million annual industry, which many might 
consider to be quite successful.

The article asks the question "are these two techniques at matching
people better than the old ones or are they essentially similar in
function?"  Consider the following quote:

|At the end of the day, however, it may be that the success of such 
|sites is attributable not so much to their proprietary methods as to 
|their choosy, self-selected members who don’t want to wink at and 
|woo the first person whose profile they read online. The sites attract 
|cohorts of people interested in slowing down the online dating and 
|mating process, in finding out more information about potential 
|partners — or in ruling out unlikely suitors — before they graduate 
|to the meet-and-greet stage.
|
|THE more advanced the partner prediction sites, the more they may 
|actually serve a more old-fashioned role. The sites provide background 
|details on a person’s family, education, aspirations, character, genetic 
|traits and general health of the type that was once public information 
|in farming or immigrant communities or even in hunter-gatherer societies, 
|Dr. Fisher says.
|
|Indeed, at least from the point of view of evolutionary science, you’d be 
|better off spending $50 — and more likely to find a mate — by using a 
|premium dating site than by dropping $50 on drinks in the uncertain 
|waters of singles bars. 

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