Hi

Where I would diverge slightly from Rick is in his final comment about
science being able to stand rational critique.  The problem with the
"science wars" and the then and ongoing critiques of science from
postmodernists and like ilk was that only one side was being rational. 
It is much more difficult to defend oneself against irrational attacks
from people who do not value or understand reason and science.  After
all, those are sexist, eurocentric, racist, elitist constructs and need
not be adhered to by enlightened (in the anti-enlightenment sense of the
word) people.

My last post for the day!

Take care
Jim




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>>> Rick Froman <[email protected]> 31-Mar-12 4:44 PM >>>
In reference to the subject line of this thread, an equally interesting
question is why, in the years from 1974 until the present,
liberals/progressives have not, along with Sting, "lost their faith in
Science, Progress...". After all, as he noted, "I never saw no miracle
of science, that didn't go from a blessing to a curse, I never saw no
military solution, that didn't always end up as something worse."

It is true, as Jim notes, that although liberals haven't lost much
faith in science in recent years, they also don't give it extremely high
levels of support. But what segment of society does receive any respect?
Clergy? Politicians? Professors? I think our modern day Jesters (such as
the one recently nominated as our greatest public intellectual), also
known as late night comedians, are the most highly valued, as much for
their cynicism as their respect for truth. In our current society, which
seems to have lost any need for authority or evidence (everyone has an
opinion and all are equal), how has science escaped a liberal loss of
faith? Maybe because liberals perceive science somehow as on their side
with recent articles like: 

Kanazawa, Satoshi.  2010.  *Why Liberals and Atheists Are More
Intelligent.*  Social Psychology Quarterly.  73:  33-57.

Although, to be fair, he followed it up with: 

Kanazawa, Satoshi.  2012.  The Intelligence Paradox:  Why the
Intelligent Choice Isn*t Always the Smart One.  New York:  Wiley.

And many more interesting studies at:
http://personal.lse.ac.uk/Kanazawa/ 

A final question: who is more likely to adopt a postmodern worldview in
which Mike's listed purpose of science ("to provide a factual, truthful,
accurate, and valid representation of the world and physical reality")
would be risible, conservatives or liberals? I don't think the proper
approach to science education is to attempt to inculcate a respect for
science. I believe that will come when we give people understanding of
how to appropriately understand and critique science. Science can stand
rational critique; a much greater threat to science is to be perceived
as being co-opted by those of a particular political persuasion. 

Rick

Dr. Rick Froman, Chair
Division of Humanities and Social Sciences
John Brown University
Siloam Springs, AR  72761
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From: Michael Palij [[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:37 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Michael Palij
Subject: [tips] Why Do Conservatives Distrust Science?

It may have become apparent to many that there are certain segments
of the population that are both hostile to and distrustful of science.
This
might strike scientists as bizarre because one purpose of science is
to provide a factual, truthful, accurate, and valid representation of
the
world and physical reality -- and has been able to do so more
successfully
that any other approach to knowledge development.  The question is
why?


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