On 2012-07-01, at 9:40 AM, Annette Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I wonder how the experiences can be so diverse.

Perhaps journal editors in different areas are differentially obsessive about 
such minutia. In the last several year, I have published mainly in history and 
theory, where there is a general acknowledgment that APA format is not terribly 
well suited and, so, somewhat more tolerance for idiosyncratic solutions. When 
I have published historical pieces in more general journals (like Amer Psych 
and Can Psych) I have often had to have this little discussion with the editor 
and they usually see my point. Experimental.or clinical journal may adhere more 
strictly to The Rules.

>  
> Number 1: author submits article and gets a rejection notice with detailed 
> information why. Man's response: Hot damn! I've got a publication, let me 
> clean it up and resubmit. Woman's response: Damn! Another one for the trash 
> can. Let me start over.

I don't know whether there is a sex diff, but I was always taught, and I teach 
my students, that "revise and resubmit" means you have the editor on the line 
and now you just need to reel him or her in. Presuming that every little 
criticism means the whole thing is junk is deeply counterproductive. It is the 
reviewer's job to criticize. If s/he didn't provide criticism, s/he wouldn't be 
called upon very often to review in future. 

> Number 2: women spend a much larger amount of time and effort on addressing 
> every single critique; men pick out the ones they find most important and 
> address only those.


Having been an editor myself, I always tell my students to read the editor's 
letter carefully. S/he will tell you which critiques s/he wants addressed and 
which you can punt on (by not mentioning them), but s/he cannot say outright, 
"Ignore Reviewer 2's second critique. It is foolish," because the reviewer 
often sees the letter to the author as well. Also, I have become more 
comfortable with telling the editor that the reviewer (or even the editor) is 
just wrong about this or that. Often, with misguided criticisms, I will say 
that I can see how other readers might have the same misapprehension, and 
devote a footnote to explaining why that is, without distracting from the main 
narrative (and then I have to have the discussion with the editor about why 
footnotes are useful in such circumstances, APA's silly resistance to them 
notwithstanding). 

>  And how can you tell across disciplines who was primary on the study as I 
> understand that in many medical studies the LAST author is the primary 
> author. Sigh. So many games, so many more important things to do.

In most scientific disciplines other than psychology, the lab director is the 
last author. In math, also, it is convention for the senior author to go last. 
Actually, I have seen it happen increasingly within psychology, where 
researchers were trained in neuroscience or comp sci, etc.

Chris
.......
Christopher D Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

[email protected]
http://www.yorku.ca/christo

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