Some of you know I'm kind of hypervigilant about spelling. I can't help but
wonder what a committee would think of a letter of recommendation with
"students" incorrectly spelled to include an apostrophe.  Wow.

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Plymouth State University
New Hampshire

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Helweg-Larsen, Marie <[email protected]
> wrote:

> But what leads you to the conclusion that Professor Smith's letter of
> recommendation of Ted Bundy was not based on personal observation of his
> actual behavior? It sounds like it might have been a quite accurate
> description of what the professor observed in the context of teaching Ted
> Bundy. How do we know this was inaccurate or over confident?
> Marie
>
>
> "Mr.
> |Bundy is undoubtedly one of the top undergraduate student's in our
> |department. ... He is exceedingly bright. personable. highly motivated.
> |and conscientious.... He has the capacity for hard work and because of
> |his intellectual curiosity is a pleasure to interact with.... I
> |recommend him to you without qualification:'
>
>
>
> Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor l Department of Psychology
> Kaufman 168 l Dickinson College
> Phone 717.245.1562 l Fax 717.245.1971
> Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday 10:30-11:30
> http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Palij [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:36 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Cc: Michael Palij
> Subject: Re: [tips] Charging students for letters of recommendation
>
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:25:03 -0800, Paul Brandon wrote:
> >My policy was that I would only commend on things that I knew first hand.
> >So even if students wanted to give me autobiographical information I
> >would not accept it.  That alternative would have been to do more fact
> >checking than would have been practical.
> >So, if my only contact with a student had been in the classroom, the
> >letter would be very short; I let them know this.  Some wanted the
> >letter anyway, others took my advice to find people who knew them better.
>
> If a student who has only taken a courses with me asks for a letter of
> reference, I tell them that all I can talk about is what they have done in
> class and that they can get stronger letters from people who have
> supervised them in research or fieldwork or clinical service and so on.
> We can only get thin slices of student behavior in classes and I think
> that it is not prudent to attempt to talk about characteristics of students
> outside of the contexts we work with them or to rely upon their own
> statements of what they have done.
>
> I have referred to the point made below on TiPS before but it is useful to
> keep it in mind.  Here is a quote from Robert Keppel's book "The Riverman":
>
> |Trust Bandit
> |
> |Throughout Ted's life. he constantly stole everyone's trust. He conned
> |the best. One such person was Professor Ronald Smith of the University
> |of Washington's Psychology Department. Professor Smith once wrote in
> |Ted's behalf for law school admission: "Mr.
> |Bundy is undoubtedly one of the top undergraduate student's in our
> |department. ... He is exceedingly bright. personable. highly motivated.
> |and conscientious.... He has the capacity for hard work and because of
> |his intellectual curiosity is a pleasure to interact with.... I
> |recommend him to you without qualification:' Ted proved that attending
> |college full-time was not an impediment to his murderous compulsions.
> |
> |Serial killers are very knowledgeable of the areas they operate in.
> |They literally kill in their own backyards or, as others have written.
> |they live and move about among their prey.
> (Page 422)
>
> This book is available on books.google.com; see:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=QtrLm4J6A9gC&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22ted+bundy%22+letter+reference+%22university+of+washington%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VUu2UKi1FaS-0AGOg4DIDw&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=professor&f=false
>
> Now, some teachers may suffer from extreme forms of hubris and arrogance
> in that they think that they "really, really" know who and what their
> students are like and what they can do.  I have no doubt that Prof. Smith
> above thought he knew who and what Ted Bundy was but this is just another
> example of unjustified over-confidence in our judgment.  Which, of course,
> Ted Bundy relied upon in order to get away with his murderous activities.
>
> So, while there is a low probability that you will write a letter of
> reference for a serial killer (but how one would know?) it probably best to
> base judgments on actual behaviors we have observed rather than our
> inferences of what a person is like or what they are likely to do in the
> future.
>
> -Mike Palij
> New York University
> [email protected]
>
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