BitSlayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> sure you don't get spam you say, because of tmda...  uhm, oh yes you
> do, you just don't see it...

But besides the issue of wasted resources, does it matter? The vast
majority of spammers never know whether their messages were accepted
or rejected, so there is no sense of satisfaction from stopping them
at the SMTP level.

TMDA's focus is on the issue of wasted time, not wasted computational
resources. My time is exponentially more expensive than network
bandwidth and computer hardware is.

It'd be nice to conserve both of course, but that's difficult to do
with one tool. However, it's a simple matter to combine tools as you
see fit.

> What I'm looking for, and what my suggestion was all about, was
> stopping spam at the server itself. before it even hits your tmda
> filters or processes.

This is fine, and a good idea. I think we misunderstood your first
message.

I use http://www.ordb.org/ which blocks about 900 spams/day on my
server. Others probably implement additional and/or more aggressive
blacklisting techniques--I'm just rather conservative with regards to
global blacklists.
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