yeah, i've been wondering about this also. seems really not great to have the server grinding away on useless spam.
has anyone considered the juniper smtp proxy/firewall as a candidate for tmda application (somehow)? /var/qmail/control/badmailfrom only goes so far...in fact, not really very far. the functions of tmda should be built into smtp, closer to the edge, so email doesn't even come in one inch from blacklisted senders, and confirms go out *before* any smtp takes place... hmmmmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "BitSlayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: Re: anti-spam suggestion > I'm not getting spam through tmda either... however... that's not the > point. > > As I mentioned in my email, it has less to do with the blacklist for tmda > than to do with a banned list or filter list on the server side of things. > > sure you don't get spam you say, because of tmda... > uhm, oh yes you do, you just don't see it... > > the server is busy working away sending you all these spammy messages, > which end up in your pending files, and it's busy trying to respond to > every single one of those. and bounces and loops are being created because > of it. round and round the mail goes, where it stops no one knows. > > What I'm looking for, and what my suggestion was all about, was stopping > spam at the server itself. before it even hits your tmda filters or > processes. > > Anyone have any idea how taxing it would be to have over 10,000 customers > running tmda on a single box ? that means 10,000 forks of python for every > piece of email for every single one of them. and then another 10,000 forks > to do the responses, and then more to handle the bounces from those failed > responses (because the domains are fake). I don't think my server can > handle that... > > I have over 10,000 addresses in our server filter, and not ONE of them is > a "throw away" dsl or dialup address. Not a single one... > > Where does most of the spam come from? High schools in the middle of > korea. I kid you not... > > yes, this is the WRONG place for this. but lacking a better suggestion... > in any case, those of you who DO use filters (blacklist, etc) please > forward me what you can.. > > thank you, and I'll shut up about this now. > > Dan. > > PS - yes TMDA is the greatest thing since sliced bread... and I love it... > kudos again. > > _____________________________________________ > tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users > _____________________________________________ tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users
