Monique Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> C-R systems, or TMDA, anyway, have the capability of incorporating
> other spam fighting techniques quite powerfully.  I'd much rather
> have multiple components, each doing what they do best, that can
> interact in whichever way I find best.

Exactly.  The so called "Unix Philosophy" encourages this.

> Actually, tmda syntax is so much cleaner than, say, procmail, that I
> can imagine that for certain uses (certainly everything I've done so
> far), even if one didn't want c/r functionality, one could install
> tmda, set up various filters, and then have a final filter to send
> everything else to the inbox.

Indeed, most people don't realize that TMDA can be used for many other
things besides the challenge/response aspect.  For example, the local
delivery agent properties can be used as a procmail substitute.
tmda-sendmail/ofmipd makes a nice interface between the MUA and MTA
for those who desire more control over the headers and envelope of
their outgoing messages.

> I *do* choose to use C/R as a last resort, and I believe that user
> choice is the right way to run these things.

Currently TMDA does use C/R by default, and you have to configure it
to deliver by default instead.  This is a throwback to the early days
when TMDA did little more than C/R.  I'd not be oppose to reversing
this though.  The idea would be that a new TMDA install would deliver
all uncaught mail, and you'd have to set ACTION_INCOMING = 'confirm'
in /etc/tmdarc or ~/.tmda/config to make C/R the last resort action.
Regardless of this thread, I think this would make a new installation
less painful as well.  Any opinions on this idea?
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