On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 17:57, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:46:02PM -0600, Jason R. Mastaler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Please quantify your personal experience.
> > 
> > I'd prefer not to.
> 
> Duly noted:

Oh, get off your horse. His statement is quite reasonable. I have
installed mail servers in a company environment. They ask the following
question:

"Is it at all possible, ever, that a non-spam message could get marked
as spam?"

I tell them "Yes, but its very very unlikely", and their reply is that
if even one single message gets dropped in the life of the company, that
is too much. The fact that the software might be better than a human
doing the same thing is completely irrelevant.

So yes, in some peoples eye's, no spam filtering system is good enough
unless it is perfect. Those people are the people sysadmins serve. You
can whine at the sysadmins as much as you like. You can talk about your
0.00whatsit false positive rate or whatever, and you are blowing so much
smoke, because they have to deal with people that simple don't think
that way.

> 
>     http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2003-September/007390.html
> 
> > > While some C-R proponents claim filtering doesn't work
> > 
> > Some perhaps, but quite a few ``C-R proponents'' use content filtering
> > in conjunction with their C-R solution.  Many such examples were given
> > in this very thread.
> 
> Malevolence through incompetence is not an option.
> 
> Peace.

Stop acting like a prat. Being snarky, and putting the word "Peace"
after it gains you nothing. If you want to convert me to your point of
view, you are SO on the wrong track. Behave.

If you wish to contend that his statement is false, you have lost. There
are people out there that don't care about technical details, and that
call the shots. They disagree with you. They pay the bills. They won't
ever use something like spamassassin. They tell sysadmins what behaviour
is good enough. Period.

Ciao,
Ray


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