One of the greatest inventions ever has been Viagra and all of the rest of
the 'helpers' and men should never, ever be ashamed to try them out.  They
truly work.  We need to find one that helps women the same way.  Viagra has
been used and it seems to work with some women.  I have been away from
nursing for four years so there might be all sorts of things since then.  I
hope so.  There is hardly anything that feels so good as uhh, well, you know
..  Yes, the love and passion that comes with making love cannot be compared
nor replaced.  Put the two together and 'WOW'....makes you want to get up
and do your dishes or something!!!    Jeanne  :)
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Robert Pall
Date: 6/25/2009 9:32:49 AM
To: [email protected];  [email protected]
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Sex
 
Gunny:
    Even though you sometimes may ramble on...I think you made many really
valid and important statements. This is a subject many of us avoid mainly
because it is a private issue and we may be embarrassed to discuss. I as you
can only speak for myself....I have basically zero feeling from the waist
down and therefore when it comes to sex I cannot tell what I am doing
without looking...and even with that being said Viagra is a must.That being
said I have tried and continue to try to satisfy my wife as best I can...
many times my wife is not interested because she knows I am doing it only
for her (which is probably true)...therefore more times than not we end up
doing nothing....we are still together and have been married 39 years...to
me this is just another problem that TM has brought on...and perhaps neither
one of us will leave the other after so long...but it obviously puts a major
strain on our relationship...this probably sounds crazy but I would
understand if my wife had an affair....if the tables were turned I probably
would...many for religous reasons will not like this answer and can choose
to condemn it...but I cannot help the way I feel.
 
Rob in New Jersey




From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TMIC] Sex


Some Interesting points have been brought up in this discussion, so I'm
gonna chime in. Understand, I'm only speaking for myself, but there may be
some points to ponder here. Ok, when I first got married again, and she came
to Ohio, things went well the first night we were together,  but, after I
got to see her demeanor and attitude, things went quickly down the tubes. It
didn't take long for her to tell me she hated me, and wished I was dead. I
suppose part of that was because I forced her to go to work. In any case,
with me, not all men, physical attraction was the main purpose to get
involved. One needs to take time to find out what kind of person lives
inside the one you want to tie up with, and, is that the same person that's
projected to the world, or are they different? Are they one person at home,
and another to the outside world. If so, then that's a phoney. Since this
wonderful probelm of TM has so graciously decided to rule my life, I've
begun to see that looks don't mean a helluva lot. Oh, not the physicality
doesn't matter, but it shouldn't be uppermost. In your youth, maybe, but as
you age, you take on a different outlook. I know for myself, attitude plays
a big role. If your a weasel of a person, nothings gonna happen, no matter
how hard I try, or what pill I take. If, and if, I feel the desire, and your
receptive, possibly. Also, age plays a role in this. I find the oder I get,
the less desire I have. As far as feelings go, meaning sensation, if my
partner has diminished sensation, I'll do what it takes to try and get some
back. It's like, if you don't use it, you lose it syndrome. Maybe that'll
work, maybe it wont, but, if you have feelings for you partner, you'll at
least try. Men have a way of thinking, well, I can't feel anything or if you
can't feel anything, what's the use. Oh yeah, what about at least giving it
a shot. Your mind may come into play here in that, you remember what it was
like, maybe it'll be that way again. But, if you don't try. you'll never
know. One thing I've found out through my trek in life is, men need to know
they're needed, and women need to know they're loved. If those two needs are
met, the rest should fall into place. If you love each other, then damnit,
show it. It's never too late to experiment. Take those old tapes that are
playing in your mind, instilled by parents who say, certain sexual
techniques if you will, are taboo, and throw em in the shit can. There's
nothing taboo about loving someone, and showing them that you do. I gotta do
more thinking on this matter, but these are the thoughts that have been
running through my mind since this subject came up.



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