Just a quick update. Ratan ji and me met today afternoon.
He will let one of his SHiFT members to meet Swati's parents either today or tomorrow. I gave the numbers to him. Sravan garu, Your intention is good. I will forward your questions to Ratan ji. Thank you. --- In [email protected], "ulprasanthi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good Suggestion Divya. Let us see how it goes. > > > --- In [email protected], "divyapryga" > <divyapryga@> wrote: > > > > Agree on women dealing with the girl. > > > > Should we meet her weekly??? One a month I think is good enough I > > think to keep track. > > > > Also..an option would be to talk to the principal of the college...or > > any female lecturer who might understand what we are trying to do > > here...and volunteer to check on her at regular intervals. They are > > the closest to watch and who better to guide than her own faculty?? I > > bet there will be more than one understanding person who will > > appreciate our efforts and support the cause in their way possible. > > > > Meeting the girl once a month would be more than enough I think. If > > this is at the college itself..then we can get the progress info from > > the lecturer aswell. > > > > Also..I am surprised at the fees. I paid 1100 per year for my Grad in > > '97. Has it increased as badly as that now...man !! Also I was working > > n pursuing my Grad at the same time...n hence could never make the > > attendance. I was waived off the attendance against four hours of time > > in library n reporting to a lecturer when the college was at holidays > > & open for questions and clarifications before final exams. I was > > under the guidance and watch of my principal (I wud meet her once a > > week) and one of my lecturers who wud site n go thru the syllabus with > > me everyday. I think people such exist always. We just need to look > > for them. > > > > -Divya > > > > > ********************************************************************** --- > > In [email protected], "Lakshmi Prasanthi Uppalapati" > > <prasanthi.uppalapati@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Karthik, > > > > > > Thanks for sharing info. > > > > > > Don't worry. No backlash would be there :) > > > > > > Coming to this case, it is not shunning away from the > > responsibility. It is > > > just weighing our pros and cons in dealing with a case. > > > > > > See, the difficulties here are: > > > > > > 1. B.N. Reddy Nagar (near Dilshukhnagar) is very far from here. > > > 2. To meet the girl on weekly basis (who will go? ) > > > > > > -- We already planned for a visit to Anikepalli on fortnightly > > basis. In > > > addition to that we have medical camps on alternative weekends for > > > successive months. > > > > > > 3. Analyzing, counselling, grooming, guiding -- not an easy task. > > > > > > Atleast I personally feel, I cannot do that. We need a person of > > very high > > > calibre to do that and one person is not enough but we need a group of > > > people who are capable enough of it. > > > > > > So we need to arrange them and preferably women as dealing with girls. > > > > > > So I only worry about the level of involvement and the responsibility. > > > > > > If we have to take up higher - education responsibility in this way, > > we need > > > to commit ourselves completely for the education cause. > > > > > > Given our limitations and constraints, at this point of time, taking > > up this > > > is not feasible. Financial support is fine. Meeting once in a > month also > > > will be fine. But more than that would be too much for us. > > > > > > Anyhow, ideas are welcome. > > > > > > I will update you all with the details of tomorrow's happenings. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > On 6/14/06, Karthik <karthik_j_r@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Prasanthi, > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing the discussion points with Sai garu. > > > > > > > > I don't think the group should hesitate from taking on the > > > > responsibilities of the education of a student. It is after all > > another area > > > > where the group gets to make a difference. This doesn't mean that > > we won't > > > > run into to problems. I am sure we will trip and fall a few times > > but we'll > > > > get valuable lessons out of it and given the size/expertise of the > > group > > > > none of the lessons will be expensive ones :-) Also, please note > > that I > > > > mentioned the word "group" all along. > > > > > > > > However, in the specific case of this girl, I think it is > > mandatory > > > > that a meeting happen with the girl's family. If you cannot do it > > then it'd > > > > be great if someone else from the group did that. If no one can do > > that, I'd > > > > be hesitant to support the cause of this girl because I fear a > > backlash from > > > > the family. > > > > > > > > Other opinions about what I've written are definitely welcome > > because > > > > I can see that the backlash fear I mentioned is a reflection of my > > lack of > > > > experience in the area. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Karthik > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > From: Lakshmi Prasanthi Uppalapati <prasanthi.uppalapati@> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:08:48 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [tomakeadifference] Re: <Important: New Case> Need for > > > > educational support. > > > > > > > > Hello Gopi, > > > > > > > > Please remove 'garu' from my name. > > > > > > > > Coming to the task, earlier I haven't given it such serious > > thought. But > > > > once Sai garu spoke with me, I was a bit discouraged and I feel we > > can't > > > > handle in the way he suggested. > > > > > > > > I rang to Ratan ji of SHiFT, he would come and meet me during > > lunch hour > > > > tomorrow. Then hopefully I will talk to Sai garu as well. > > > > > > > > Owing to what happened recently, I do not want to take anything > which > > > > would be on one person's shoulders even if they themselves come > > forward. > > > > > > > > This case also needs a sophisticated handling when it comes to > > grooming > > > > and guiding. > > > > > > > > Financial support we can give... but....let me think and evaluate. > > > > > > > > Anyway the latest update today is: The girl rang to me, she met the > > > > principal of the Naveena College, Venkateswara Reddy and gave his > > contact > > > > number. The college fee for Intermediate M.P.C. is Rs. 9000 per > year. > > > > > > > > (I paid Rs. 4000 for Intermediate 1st year and the same for 2nd > > year. So > > > > the fee for two years is 8000 Rs. It was way back in 1994-96 that > > to in > > > > Nellore.) > > > > > > > > What I replied to the girl is I can get back to her on Saturday. > > > > > > > > As Sai garu mentioned to meet the girl and the family, it is not > > possible > > > > for me for one month from now. > > > > > > > > At this point of time I am very much reluctant to mail to the > > group asking > > > > 'Anyone of you are interested to do that?'. No way. > > > > > > > > I can only update either tomorrow evening or on Friday morning. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > On 6/14/06, Gopi Krishna <sitaramgk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Prasanthi garu, > > > > > > > > > > Its seems you are thinking very much in deapth. > > > > > What I feel is we can only help those who are really > > > > > interested in pursuing further studies by financial > > > > > support to some extent and moral support now and > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > > > Here I have summarized my views and openions regarding > > > > > educational support. > > > > > > > > > > 1.What we expect from them? > > > > > > > > > > Just a good citizen who in turn may be capable of > > > > > supporting others in future. That is enough for our > > > > > satisfaction. > > > > > > > > > > Ofcourse being in constant touch with them we can > > > > > advise them and mould their career to some extent. > > > > > We can never expect what she/he would be in future. > > > > > Only thing we can do is we have to choose such a > > > > > person, who have genuine interest to pursue studies > > > > > but unable to do because of several reasons. > > > > > > > > > > 2.What if they develop bad habits? > > > > > > > > > > This too, at this stage, we cant predict. But a > > > > > responsible person will never do that. Whome ever we > > > > > help they are going to be our members. > > > > > Then why to worry? > > > > > > > > > > we should not give them any extra money which they > > > > > never want. > > > > > We just make them to ask us for the their needs just > > > > > like our brothers or sisters do. Only after evaluation > > > > > we can sanction them. > > > > > We should be in touch with them, Just like a brother > > > > > or sister we should encourage them at all points. > > > > > > > > > > This kind of care will never allow them to do some > > > > > thing bad. > > > > > > > > > > 3. Funding. > > > > > > > > > > I think It will be nice if we have a seperate fund > > > > > for educational supports. A portion of monthly funds > > > > > or special amounts which people would like to provide > > > > > for the same. > > > > > > > > > > By having that we can plan how far we can support > > > > > them depending on their necessities. > > > > > > > > > > Finally, Supporting kids - its doesnt rise any such > > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > > > In the case of this girl, we can support her > > > > > financially but can you enquire about her family > > > > > situation, what I feel is her parents too should be > > > > > interested otherwise it will be very problematic. > > > > > please check this. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Gopi Krishna > > > > > > > > > > --- ulprasanthi > > <prasanthi.uppalapati@<prasanthi.uppalapati%40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Karthik and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the response and interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Today Sai garu (Nokia's site manager)spoke with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > He explained me various scenarios that can happen > > > > > > and their past > > > > > > experiences. Also he emphasized the necessity of > > > > > > doing lot of ground > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > What he opines is, if at all we take up a case, we > > > > > > should take full > > > > > > responsibility and we should talk to the family: > > > > > > 1. Do they do her marriage or do they allow her to > > > > > > study and get > > > > > > employment > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we should be able to guide her, groom her, > > > > > > motivate her etc., It > > > > > > is just like taking a responsibility as such that we > > > > > > do it for our > > > > > > own family member, a sort of adoption. > > > > > > > > > > > > He has given few examples: > > > > > > 1. A guy who cleared IAS exam > > > > > > 2. A girl who got many offer letters for a pay of > > > > > > more than 50k and > > > > > > who is opting for US University Scholorship for MS > > > > > > program > > > > > > > > > > > > If we wish to commit, we should talk to the girl/any > > > > > > student in > > > > > > detail, analyse her and then if we feel she is worth > > > > > > of all our > > > > > > efforts, then we should groom her. > > > > > > > > > > > > He has also given the examples of a boy who ran away > > > > > > from the hostel > > > > > > and also a girl who developed all sorts of bad > > > > > > habits. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is not so easy. > > > > > > > > > > > > After listening to him, I felt very discouraged. So > > > > > > I think we need > > > > > > very good discussion on it and we need people who > > > > > > can commit and also > > > > > > be good enough in guiding and counselling. We all > > > > > > should do it > > > > > > collectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not the case of medical help or running > > > > > > medical camps or just > > > > > > providing financial support. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ofcourse Sai garu and other members of Satya Sai > > > > > > Seva Dal helps us, > > > > > > but we should be very committed and dedicated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lot need to be done here. Are we fit enough to take > > > > > > up? Please > > > > > > advice. Personally I am doing very serious > > > > > > introspection and to be > > > > > > frank a bit negative of our competency in dealing > > > > > > with/working for > > > > > > this cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > [email protected]<tomakeadifference% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > Karthik > > > > > > <karthik_j_r@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good cause. I want to contribute to this > > > > > > girl's > > > > > > education. Please let me know how I can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > Karthik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > > From: Lakshmi Prasanthi Uppalapati > > > > > > <prasanthi.uppalapati@> > > > > > > > To: > > [email protected]<tomakeadifference% 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:30:31 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [tomakeadifference] <Important: New > > > > > > Case> Need for > > > > > > educational support. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Raghu and Suresh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh from We Will Help You group came forward > > > > > > to help her > > > > > > initial fee requirement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > From: We Will Help You > > > > > > > "Suresh" <suresh18@> > > > > > > > I propose that we go ahead with the idea of > > > > > > sponsoring this girl's > > > > > > education. We can formalize how to raise the funds a > > > > > > little later. I > > > > > > am willing to put up the initial fee requirement so > > > > > > that she does not > > > > > > miss the opportunity to start on time. > > > > > > > Education will always have my support. > > > > > > > Suresh A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will give the contact details of the girl to 3 > > > > > > of you off-line > > > > > > later. If you want to ring to her and talk, you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/14/06, suresh <sureshe_att@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prasanthi and team, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the college has already begun, lets go > > > > > > ahead with sponsoring > > > > > > her. In the meanwhile we can work on finding a third > > > > > > party to sponsor > > > > > > her education. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial contribution to this is $55. This > > > > > > money was raised from > > > > > > a penny drive. My friends who participated in this , > > > > > > had collected > > > > > > pennies worth $55 and even they would be happy to > > > > > > know, what they > > > > > > thought was inconsequential , has turned out to be a > > > > > > significant > > > > > > amount. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyways, thats my 2 cents :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ulprasanthi <prasanthi.uppalapati@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning/Evening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the case of a girl that I mentioned in few > > > > > > of my previous > > > > > > mails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Swati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family Details: > > > > > > > Father: An Agricultural worker who earns Rs. 70 > > > > > > per day > > > > > > > Mother: Works in a Seed company who earns Rs. 45 > > > > > > per day > > > > > > > She is the youngest among the four children. All > > > > > > her elder sisters > > > > > > got > > > > > > > married. She is interested to pursue her > > > > > > education. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Address: Flat No: 37, B. N. Reddy Nagar, > > > > > > Vanasthalipuram Mandal. 2 > > > > > > kms > > > > > > > from Vanasthalipuram it seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marks she secured in SSC: 507 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She told me that there is a college by name Naveen > > > > > > College near by > > > > > > her > > > > > > > house and she doesn't mind studying in any other > > > > > > college that we > > > > > > > sponsor for her. She is ready to even join in a > > > > > > hostel. (We don't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > her parents' opinion. This is just her personal > > > > > > interest). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I requested her to go to Naveena College tomorrow > > > > > > and get the fee > > > > > > > details and the contact details of the principal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile we should try to know about any college. > > > > > > One of my > > > > > > > relatives' husband works in Narayana College. I > > > > > > will find out if > > > > > > there > > > > > > > is any scope of concession and is it possible to > > > > > > talk to the > > > > > > > management here. or else we can try in any other > > > > > > college that we > > > > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, what do you feel about this case? Shall > > > > > > we > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > with regards, > > > > PRASANTHI. > > > > ---- > > > > When you want something, the whole universe conspires in helping > > you to > > > > achieve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > with regards, > > > PRASANTHI. > > > ---- > > > When you want something, the whole universe conspires in helping > you to > > > achieve it. > > > > > >
