[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> 
>> I can't be a RM for 4.0.4 because I would simply remove 70% of the code, and
>> kiddies would start crying their butts off because they don't have the
>> manager application, or JSP support :)
> 
> I don't think you can remove JSP support - tomcat would no longer be
> the 'reference impl. for servlets and jsps'.
> 
> And I don't know why you have to _remove_ stuff that other people
> need and wrote - simply because you don't need them ?

Just when they complicate my life as an administrator... Look at what Scarab
is doing... Kudos to Jon who is actually doing it right...

>> But if anyone is interested I'd like to explore the opportunity of a
>> Tomcat-HA (high-availability or hard-edition), based on 4.0 without the
>> "crap" in there, and straightening out the request-response model...
> 
> Sure - except the name, which will be 5.0 :-)

Yeah, right... I won't believe it until I won't see it with my own two
eyes...

> As I said, tomcat4.0 is out and in 'maintainance' mode ( like
> tomcat3.2 ). Changing APIs or removing features would require
> a very serious reason and would most likely be vetoed. Tuning and
> fixing and making smaller improvements is still possible - as long
> as the stability of the code is not affected.

I don't remember voting on that...

>>> I don't think you can 'veto' a long term plan or release. AFAIK it's
>>> a majority vote.
>> 
>> Veto in terms of -1ing it.
> 
> I think 'veto' has a very specific meaning. ( I'm not an expert in
> english, but it's not an english word :-)

>From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :

  Veto \Ve"to\, n.; pl. Vetoes. [L. veto I forbid.]
     1. An authoritative prohibition or negative; a forbidding; an
        interdiction.
     2. Specifically:
        (a) A power or right possessed by one department of
            government to forbid or prohibit the carrying out of
            projects attempted by another department; especially,
            in a constitutional government, a power vested in the
            chief executive to prevent the enactment of measures
            passed by the legislature.

Thank you, professor, always encouraging like a brick wall...

    Pier

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