Dear Bernard, Le 15 oct. 2011 à 22:35, Topcased user list where issues are discussed a écrit :
> Hy, > > A great thanks for your answer Raphael. > > I will explain what I understood. > > UML Topcased editor will still exist in future release but with a new look > and feel and maybe a new format. No, it is the MDT UML editor called Papyrus which is a joint work by the CEA Papyrus development team and the TOPCASED development team that started 3 or 4 years again and has been accepted in the eclipse foundation as the UML editor of MDT. > > UML from Java will still exist but will not generate a new topcased UML model > and generated model will have to be imported in papyrus. But why in papyrus > and not in new topacased UML editor ? MDT Papyrus IS the new TOPCASED UML editor. > > New topcased editor and papyrus editor use the same "background plugins". In fact, they are the same editor called MDT Papyrus. > > Is it what you explained ? > > Noite : As I understood since topcased uses papyrus, papyrus pulgins have to > be installed for topcased, then papyrus editor is available even if topcased > has uml editor too. > From my user point of view two UML editors in one tool that's too much, and > that's confusing, one editor should be removed. It will get removed in the future. But importers must first be provided in next TOPCASED 5.2 and the new editor must be thoroughly tested and extended to support all the current tools. This will probably be done for the next major TOPCASED release in june (TOPCASED 6.0). Raphaël will correct me if I did not convey the current plans. Best regards, Marc Pantel > > Bernard Granier > 8 rue Michel de l'Hospital > 95310 Saint Ouen l'Aumône > 01 30 37 27 84 > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Topcased user list where issues are discussed > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Topcased-users] Topcased 5.1.0 is available > > Hi Bernard, > My precisions below in your mail. > > <image001.gif> > Raphaël Faudou > Innovation, methods and tools > Embedded Systems & Critical Systems > T +33 5 34 363 289 > M +33 6 10 53 50 44 > http://fr.atos.net/fr-fr/ > <image002.gif> > > De : [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Topcased > user list where issues are discussed > Envoyé : vendredi 14 octobre 2011 21:28 > À : [email protected] > Objet : Re: [Topcased-users] Topcased 5.1.0 is available > > Hy, > > How to understand the integration of papyrus in topcased ? > > Does that mean that the "UML model with topcased" menu item should not be > used anymore ? > [FAUDOU Raphael] No, it means that you can use both UML editors (new and > previous). We have created two perspectives to help end users: “UML&SysML” > perspective now provides views adapted for Papyrusm editors while > “UML&SysML(with Former TOPCASED editors)” provides “classical” views as > before 5.1.0. > and that in future release UML topcased editor will be removed ? > [FAUDOU Raphael] UML editor with old TOPCASED technology (GEF) will be > probably removed next year in next major Release of TOPCASED. > New UML TOPCASED editor is based on Papyrus technology. It integrated Papyrus > and completes it for full integration with other TOPCASED components of the > toolkit (requirement, doc, scripting, OCL). > > The document about java reverse engineering has not been updated and papyrus > does not seem to have a such feature, does that mean that reverse UML from > java and java generation will be removed in future release ? > [FAUDOU Raphael] You should not consider Papyrus as a replacement of > TOPCASED. Papyrus is a technology for editors while TOPCASED is a complete > modeling platform including modeling editors like Papyrus editors. Java > reverse engineering is not in the scope of Papyrus and so it is normal that > you do not find this component with Papyrus project. But Java reverse > engineering still works in TOPCASED event it is not completely integrated > with new TOPCASED Papyrus-based editors. > In fact, It creates an Eclipse UML model that can be imported in any Papyrus > model. > Perhaps it was not clear but Papyrus editors rely on same Eclipse UML plugin > that former TOPCASED UML editor. The only difference is about the graphical > format (diagrams). So if you use java reverse engineering, TOPCASED will > create a UML model and potentially some class diagrams with former TOPCASED > graphical format (.di). You will not be able to read those diagrams in > papyrus but you will be able to import UML data (classes, attributes…) into a > Papyrus model . Then it will be quite simple to create class diagrams by drag > and drop. > > Hope it is clear, > Regards > Raphaël Faudou > Atos > > Sincerly, > > > Bernard Granier > 8 rue Michel de l'Hospital > 95310 Saint Ouen l'Aumône > 01 30 37 27 84 > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Topcased user list where issues are discussed > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 5:23 PM > Subject: [Topcased-users] Topcased 5.1.0 is available > > Dear TOPCASED users, > > TOPCASED 5.1.0 is now available. It is based on the latest Eclipse 3.7 SR1 > platform (Indigo). > Previous TOPCASED 5.0.0 release introduced integration of Eclipse MDT > papyrus editors (UML&SysmL) but those editors were not mature. > There has been a lot of work done to fix all major issues and those editors > can now be considered as “usable” in TOPCASED 5.1.0. > For any new project we recommend that you have a look at those editors as > they provide strong ergonomics improvements (in reference to previous > TOPCASED editors), a better support of UML& SysML specification and a very > good support for profile customization. > For existing models, we recommend that you continue to use former UML and > SysML TOPCASED editors as there is not yet automatic transformation between > former graphical format and Papyrus one. This transformation is in progress > and should be available in TOPCASED 5.2.0 (planned for January). > Note: You will find two different perspectives to distinguish former and new > editors for UML and SysML. > > You can download the RCP version, features and the release note at the > following link : > http://www.topcased.org/index.php?idd_projet_pere=52&Itemid=60 Since we are > having troubles building it, the Linux RCP version is not available yet, but > it should be shortly. You can also install TOPCASED 5.1.0 from the > update-site : http://topcased-mm.gforge.enseeiht.fr/indigo/release/topcased5.1 > You can find more information on the official TOPCASED website: > http://www.topcased.org/ > A new section "Indicators" has been created to show statistics on some > components. > > Users support: Help is available through the 'Help > Help Contents' menu of > TOPCASED. However if you have any questions, you can get support through the > TOPCASED Users mailing list: [email protected] To be > able to use the mailing-list, don't forget to subscribe to it, first. > > Developers support: You may find information on the dedicated developers page > of the TOPCASED official website. If you have any questions, you can also use > the TOPCASED developers mailing list and sending your questions > to:[email protected] > > Report a bug: To report a bug against TOPCASED, create a new entry on our bug > tracker. You need to be logged on the site to be able to create an entry. * > Ask for a new feature To ask for a new feature on TOPCASED, create a new > entry on our feature tracker. 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