----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 9:43
PM
Subject: [total-madness] Re: Madness -
More like... Insanity!
Hello again!
I thought this particular topic had been put to bed months ago.
A bootleg is anything not produced by the record company or owner and
sold on to other people for financial gain. In this respect, 'First Step
Beyond' is not a bootleg, because, whatever the moral reasons behind
Nijinsky's ownership of the tracks, he was the legal owner.
Anyone who has purchased this CD will know that the vast majority of it
is unreleased tracks and demos, that are not copies of anything else
previously (or subsequently) available. This particular CD is not a CD-R,
it is a properly recorded copy, hence the original price-tag of around �17.50.
Obviously, if put up on eBay or its like for auction, it may well reach
ludicrous amounts before sold!
Others of you on the list will remember that the same individual/company
tried to put out a double CD called "The Lost" at the ridiculous price of �35.
This again contained more material from the same source as "First Step
Beyond". However, on this occasion, Mr Smash got to hear of it and (quite
rightly) threatened legal action as he wasn't being credited or therefore
receiving royalties for his copyrighted material.
I have to say, I wouldn't have paid the amount that the eBay copy went
for. Whatever people's views are about bootlegs is up to them, but ponder
this: can you honestly say you have never ever recorded copyrighted
material for other people or yourself without seeking permission? If so,
you have broken the law as much as any bootlegger. That even includes, doing a
taped copy of your Madness CDs to play in the car stereo.
If you own bootlegs and are all for their distribution then fine, but
don't expect others to agree with you. Similarly, if you're against bootlegs
for whatever reason, don't decry others who want the chance of hearing
forgotten/unreleased gems. Never the twain shall meet.
On with the Madness.
Simesy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 29 April 2001 18:15
Subject: Re: [total-madness] Re: Madness - More like...
Insane!!!
Hi all -
I'm a pretty avid collector of Madness stuff
and have gone over the deep end with a lot of things (no sane person owns 8
copies of the same album only because each cover is a little different) but I
draw the line at bootlegs. It seems to me, bootlegs aren't original by
definition. It's an illicit copy, and usually the bootlegger is just
running off CD-R's. Therefore whether the bootlegger copies it and I get
a copy or Mike H copies it and I get a copy, it is still a
copy.
Now I realize that we all have diferent ways of looking at it,
and if Yannick is happy with his purchase, wonderful. I can say at least
he bought an already existing copy and didn't buy it from the
profesional bootlegger.
Cheers!
- Elizabeth
