Hey I am new to the list.. my name is Louie.
The Bootleg Subject:
We all have different views about bootlegs, but we
must all be in the same boat when it come to wanting
to hear or own the track in the form of MP3,CD,CASS or
vinyl.
Yes it is wrong for anyone to make a profit on
something that does not belong to them, but as a
collector I am willing to pay anyone almost anything
to own the Madness catelogue. A good but insane
example. The Greek 12" of Tomorrow's Just Another Day,
the tracks that are printed on the cover are not what
is on the vinyl, some fo the covers received a sticky
label to correct the error.. some didn't I have to
have both (I said it was crazy!) ?!
...Welcome to the Nut House!
Louie S.
--- Yanick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And so spoke the wise words of a bloke called
> Simesy...
>
> Let the words be told.
>
> Yannick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Simesy
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 9:43 PM
> Subject: [total-madness] Re: Madness - More
> like... Insanity!
>
>
> Hello again!
>
> I thought this particular topic had been put to
> bed months ago.
>
> A bootleg is anything not produced by the record
> company or owner and sold on to other people for
> financial gain. In this respect, 'First Step Beyond'
> is not a bootleg, because, whatever the moral
> reasons behind Nijinsky's ownership of the tracks,
> he was the legal owner.
>
> Anyone who has purchased this CD will know that
> the vast majority of it is unreleased tracks and
> demos, that are not copies of anything else
> previously (or subsequently) available. This
> particular CD is not a CD-R, it is a properly
> recorded copy, hence the original price-tag of
> around �17.50. Obviously, if put up on eBay or its
> like for auction, it may well reach ludicrous
> amounts before sold!
>
> Others of you on the list will remember that the
> same individual/company tried to put out a double CD
> called "The Lost" at the ridiculous price of �35.
> This again contained more material from the same
> source as "First Step Beyond". However, on this
> occasion, Mr Smash got to hear of it and (quite
> rightly) threatened legal action as he wasn't being
> credited or therefore receiving royalties for his
> copyrighted material.
>
> I have to say, I wouldn't have paid the amount
> that the eBay copy went for. Whatever people's views
> are about bootlegs is up to them, but ponder this:
> can you honestly say you have never ever recorded
> copyrighted material for other people or yourself
> without seeking permission? If so, you have broken
> the law as much as any bootlegger. That even
> includes, doing a taped copy of your Madness CDs to
> play in the car stereo.
>
> If you own bootlegs and are all for their
> distribution then fine, but don't expect others to
> agree with you. Similarly, if you're against
> bootlegs for whatever reason, don't decry others who
> want the chance of hearing forgotten/unreleased
> gems. Never the twain shall meet.
>
> On with the Madness.
>
> Simesy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Elizabeth Raskin
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 April 2001 18:15
> Subject: Re: [total-madness] Re: Madness - More
> like... Insane!!!
>
>
> Hi all -
>
> I'm a pretty avid collector of Madness stuff and
> have gone over the deep end with a lot of things (no
> sane person owns 8 copies of the same album only
> because each cover is a little different) but I draw
> the line at bootlegs. It seems to me, bootlegs
> aren't original by definition. It's an illicit copy,
> and usually the bootlegger is just running off
> CD-R's. Therefore whether the bootlegger copies it
> and I get a copy or Mike H copies it and I get a
> copy, it is still a copy.
>
> Now I realize that we all have diferent ways of
> looking at it, and if Yannick is happy with his
> purchase, wonderful. I can say at least he bought an
> already existing copy and didn't buy it from the
> profesional bootlegger.
>
> Cheers!
> - Elizabeth
>
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