On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Eli wrote:
> > On Friday 20 June 2008 01:04:03 pm Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > [snip] >> installing AccountManager). I would propose an alternate solution, >> the >> creation of a "new" project that is officially recognized by t.e.o >> in some >> way as being the turnkey solution so many people want. Perhaps >> something >> like bitnami+oforge+some common options and config settings. "Trac" >> remains >> the minimalist system we all know and love, and anyone installing >> it will >> continue to get the same experience. People wanting the turnkey >> version can >> get $NEWPROJECT, and not care about what particular components it >> pulls in. > > I don't think we should start $NEWPROJECT. Trac has a lot of name > recognition... and we need to keep that. > > Just for the record, the plugins I use on most every Trac I setup: > AccountManager and Graphviz. The latter I don't see as an item for > 'core', > but graphviz is an awesome tool. :) > > > Other comments regarding this thread; primary audience is the other > devs: > > I think that AccountManager needs to migrate to Trac core just as > WebAdmin > did. And I think the form-based login needs to be the default. > Since 0.12 > is "translation & internationalization", I don't think we should > include it > in our next release... but I think we need to get 0.12 out ASAP. > Then add > AccountManager to core, and call it 0.13, and again, get that > release out > ASAP. We need to improve our "momentum" (for lack of a better term). > > I think we (the developers) need to take this discussion as > something of > a 'wake-up call'. I don't think we should go into a panic, but I > think we > need to go back and challenge some of the things we "know" about our > users' > needs. Our user base has been growing... but I think it has been > growing in > different proportions to what it started as, so our user base as a > whole is > probably very different than it was. There had been some talk on IRC about doing a voluntary usage statistics as part of the install and upgrade processes. Data like installed plugins, number of users, size of wiki and ticket database, version control system in use, etc etc. We all kind of dislike the idea, as they usually turn into PR nightmares. What do all you non- Trac-developers think about this? --Noah --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Development" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
