On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 09:15:40PM -0600, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > > On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Eli wrote: > > > > > On Friday 20 June 2008 01:04:03 pm Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > > [snip] > >> installing AccountManager). I would propose an alternate solution, > >> the > >> creation of a "new" project that is officially recognized by t.e.o > >> in some > >> way as being the turnkey solution so many people want. Perhaps > >> something > >> like bitnami+oforge+some common options and config settings. "Trac" > >> remains > >> the minimalist system we all know and love, and anyone installing > >> it will > >> continue to get the same experience. People wanting the turnkey > >> version can > >> get $NEWPROJECT, and not care about what particular components it > >> pulls in. > > > > I don't think we should start $NEWPROJECT. Trac has a lot of name > > recognition... and we need to keep that. > > > > Just for the record, the plugins I use on most every Trac I setup: > > AccountManager and Graphviz. The latter I don't see as an item for > > 'core', > > but graphviz is an awesome tool. :) > > > > > > Other comments regarding this thread; primary audience is the other > > devs: > > > > I think that AccountManager needs to migrate to Trac core just as > > WebAdmin > > did. And I think the form-based login needs to be the default. > > Since 0.12 > > is "translation & internationalization", I don't think we should > > include it > > in our next release... but I think we need to get 0.12 out ASAP. > > Then add > > AccountManager to core, and call it 0.13, and again, get that > > release out > > ASAP. We need to improve our "momentum" (for lack of a better term). > > > > I think we (the developers) need to take this discussion as > > something of > > a 'wake-up call'. I don't think we should go into a panic, but I > > think we > > need to go back and challenge some of the things we "know" about our > > users' > > needs. Our user base has been growing... but I think it has been > > growing in > > different proportions to what it started as, so our user base as a > > whole is > > probably very different than it was. > > There had been some talk on IRC about doing a voluntary usage > statistics as part of the install and upgrade processes. Data like > installed plugins, number of users, size of wiki and ticket database, > version control system in use, etc etc. We all kind of dislike the > idea, as they usually turn into PR nightmares. What do all you non- > Trac-developers think about this? > > --Noah
I'm +1 if this idea is easily doable, -1 if it turns into a PR nightmare and too much work for the $ jeff --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Development" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
