Chris, The 2440 loop became a part of the X12 standard as of version 4, release 1, subrelease 1 (aka 4011). I've checked and it is still in the standard as of 4050 (and is also in the current draft of the Implementation Guide for the 837 Professional Claim).
Every October, X12 publishes a new version/release, such as 3050, 4010, 4020, 4050, etc. In February and June, X12 publishes subreleases, such as 3051, 4011, 4012, etc. X12 published the standards for version 4050 as of October, 2001, and will publish subreleases 4051 and 4052 in February and June, 2002, respectively. All implementation guides are based on some version of the X12 standard. The HIPAA guides published in May, 2000, were based on version 4010 (with the exception of the 2440 loop). I would expressed Anthony's message a little differently, but the end result is the same. HIPAA is based on the Implementation Guide 004010X098, published in May, 2000. By that time, X12 version 4011 had long been published. (It was originally published in February, 1997.) That guide (X098 is for the 837 Professional Claim) is based on version 4010 (not 4011), but contains an exception to overcome an otherwise insurmountable problem. See Usage Note Four for the segment notes to the FRM segment (page 567). The note says, "4. Loop 2440 was approved by ASC X12 in the version 004011 Data Dictionary but is included in this guide to provide [a] standard way to report DMERC claims within the HIPAA Implementation time frame. It is recommended that entities who have a need to submit or receive DMERC claims customize their 004010 translator map to allow this loop." Hope this helps. Tom Drinkard EDIT, Inc. 678-795-1251 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Christopher J. Feahr, OD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'William J. Kammerer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The 2440 loop in the 837 (Reposting Anthony's comment per his request.) This is another surprise because I didn't know there WAS a "4011" version. I assume that the 2440 loop will be retained in the 4050... would this be a safe assumption? -Chris At 08:37 AM 4/23/02 -0400, Beecher, Anthony wrote: >Chris, > >Please post this information. I am not allowed to post due to company >policy. > >HIPAA is not based on 4010 but rather 4011, which does in fact include loop >2440. > >Anthony Beecher > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Christopher J. Feahr, OD [mailto: >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:10 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: The 2440 loop in the 837 > > >YIKES!! I had no idea that the 2440 loop ("additional supporting >information") was not in the underlying X12 standard. Vision is "eyeing" >(excuse the pun) this loop to provide additional identifying information >about eyewear products. (perhaps this explains some of the controversy >around this useful-looking part of the claim) > >-Chris > >At 10:11 AM 4/22/02 -0400, William J. Kammerer wrote: > >Hey! I have one for you all! Take a look at the 837 Professional IG > >(004010X098) - it uses a loop (2440) at the end of the transaction which > >IS NOT in the underlying 004010 standard! What would you do in this > >case? Send back a negative 997 indicating an X12 syntax error if the > >2440 loop were actually used? See if you can make hay with that!! > >Christopher J. Feahr, OD >http://visiondatastandard.org >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cell/Pager: 707-529-2268 > > > >********************************************************************** >To be removed from this list, send a message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Please note that it may take up to 72 hours to process your request. > >====================================================== >The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The >discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual >participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board >of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. 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