Chris,

Actually there are 3 versions of the X12 standards each year. The major
version/release (e.g., 4010) is based on membership balloting after the
October Trimester meeting each year. The new version is them typically
available to purchase by year end or a little bit into January of the
following year.

However, as you know, X12 has three meetings a year: February, June and
October. Following the February and June meetings all changes/additions to
the standard that have been approved by the respective subcommittees,
Technical Assessment and Procedures Review Board are then sent out to the
full membership for ballot. The results of those ballots then result in what
are call subreleases, e.g., 004011 and 004012. These subreleases are
available only in soft copy (i.e., electronic form) while the major yearend
version/release is available in several formats/media.

Loop 2440 is in subsequent versions of the X12 standard for the 837. The
real question, then is will this loop be retained in the next version of the
HIPAA guides, based on version 004050.

This question should be posed to the appropriate work group at X12N/TG2
that's working on the 837 professional.

Rachel Foerster
Principal
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce
39432 North Avenue
Beach Park, IL 60099
Phone: 847-872-8070
Fax: 847-872-6860
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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher J. Feahr, OD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'William J. Kammerer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The 2440 loop in the 837


(Reposting Anthony's comment per his request.)
This is another surprise because I didn't know there WAS a "4011"
version.  I assume that the 2440 loop will be retained in the 4050... would
this be a safe assumption?
-Chris

At 08:37 AM 4/23/02 -0400, Beecher, Anthony wrote:
>Chris,
>
>Please post this information. I am not allowed to post due to company
>policy.
>
>HIPAA is not based on 4010 but rather 4011, which does in fact include loop
>2440.
>
>Anthony Beecher
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher J. Feahr, OD [mailto:
>Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:10 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: The 2440 loop in the 837
>
>
>YIKES!! I had no idea that the 2440 loop ("additional supporting
>information") was not in the underlying X12 standard.  Vision is "eyeing"
>(excuse the pun) this loop to provide additional identifying information
>about eyewear products.  (perhaps this explains some of the controversy
>around this useful-looking part of the claim)
>
>-Chris
>
>At 10:11 AM 4/22/02 -0400, William J. Kammerer wrote:
> >Hey!  I have one for you all!  Take a look at the 837 Professional IG
> >(004010X098) - it uses a loop (2440) at the end of the transaction which
> >IS NOT in the underlying 004010 standard! What would you do in this
> >case?  Send back a negative 997 indicating an X12 syntax error if the
> >2440 loop were actually used? See if you can make hay with that!!
>
>Christopher J. Feahr, OD
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