In the 837P IG, each of the segments in the 2440 loop includes a boiler-plate notice that reads as follows:
Loop 2440 was approved by ASC X12 in the version 004011 Data Dictionary but is included in this guide to provide [a] standard way to report DMERC claims within the HIPAA implementation time frame. It is recommended that entitles [sic] who have a need to submit or receive DMERC claims customize their 004010 translator map to allow this loop. Although I'm sure intentions were well meant, I would infer this was a kind of rush job since they make specific reference to the "HIPAA implementation time frame" and also because I note two typographical errors within that pair of sentences. Certainly complicates the 997/824 debate that's been raging. So, which is it: would erros within 2440 be reported via 997 or 824? I would also note that as part of the IG, the convention is to show the implementation version of the transaction set structure diagram followed by the "standard" version of the structure diagram...and 2440 is indicated as part of the standard. *sigh* Best regards, Bill Chessman Peregrine Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Ajay K sanghi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The 2440 loop in the 837 I wonder the rationale behind it. If I am not mistaken, the FRM segment in the 2440 loop is not even in the 4010 standard! Ajay -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher J. Feahr, OD Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The 2440 loop in the 837 YIKES!! I had no idea that the 2440 loop ("additional supporting information") was not in the underlying X12 standard. Vision is "eyeing" (excuse the pun) this loop to provide additional identifying information about eyewear products. (perhaps this explains some of the controversy around this useful-looking part of the claim) -Chris At 10:11 AM 4/22/02 -0400, William J. Kammerer wrote: >Hey! I have one for you all! Take a look at the 837 Professional IG >(004010X098) - it uses a loop (2440) at the end of the transaction which >IS NOT in the underlying 004010 standard! What would you do in this >case? Send back a negative 997 indicating an X12 syntax error if the >2440 loop were actually used? See if you can make hay with that!! Christopher J. Feahr, OD http://visiondatastandard.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell/Pager: 707-529-2268 ********************************************************************** To be removed from this list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that it may take up to 72 hours to process your request. ====================================================== The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. Posting of advertisements or other commercial use of this listserv is specifically prohibited. ********************************************************************** To be removed from this list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that it may take up to 72 hours to process your request. ====================================================== The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. Posting of advertisements or other commercial use of this listserv is specifically prohibited. ********************************************************************** To be removed from this list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that it may take up to 72 hours to process your request. ====================================================== The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. Posting of advertisements or other commercial use of this listserv is specifically prohibited.
