I agree with the suggestion that meta translators need better tooling, but moving Wikimedia related translations to translatewikin.net is not a proper solution per se. I have been advocating use of the Translate extension, and more specifically the page translation feature, on meta for a while now in an informal way hoping someone would take up the challenge and find a way to convince the powers that be to make a serious effort to get it installed on meta.
I do realize the workflow is different from what translators are used to working with now, but i myself have a strong feeling of "this workflow cannot be happening" each time i work on a translation on meta, in particular when the source page content has changed and i have to resort to checking page history for what has changed. Feel like discussing this more interactively? Pleases join us in the #mediawiki-i18n irc channel, join translatewiki.net and check out the page translation feature, or check it out on userbase.kde.net. Siebrand Mazeland M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand On 20 jan. 2011, at 09:19, "Amir E. Aharoni" <[email protected]> wrote: > Several times during the fundraiser i updated the translations > manually with corrections made by other people and then i just > mentioned their usernames in the edit summary. This should be good > enough as far as credit goes. > > For a fuller solution i propose moving all the translation efforts to > translatewiki.net , which offers convenient tools for automatic > translation updates, and to the best of my knowledge, they take care > of credit, too. > > 2011/1/20 KIZU Naoko <[email protected]>: >> Hi, >> I guess we don't have a written form policy of credit or even common >> one. My recommendation for wmf editors who publish the translation >> from meta to wmf site >> is using [[meta:special:Import]] for moving the files to wmf site >> which enables us >> to preserve the original history, but sometimes it takes a time and I >> understand not always it hasn't be kept. >> >> Another solution, I believe once Wing suggested too, might be putting >> the translators' credit on the page in a much more visible way, not >> only relying history page alone, but it has not been taken into >> serious consideration to implement ... yet. >> >> What do you guys think the latter solution? >> Is anyone (preferably a MW developer) interested in? >> >> Cheers, >> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Benny <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, forgive me for asking this, but what's the policy for crediting a >>> translation? For example, the Indonesian landing page is >>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/WMFJA026/id With a little research we >>> can find that the source is >>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:2010/JimmyLetterK/id, but when >>> you look at it's history, there's no link to the actual translation page, >>> i.e. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Jimmy_appeal_2/id, >>> thus it seems that Klyman is the one who did the translation. I suppose he >>> should've at least mention where the translation was taken from. Or is >>> there another rationalization? >>> >>> ___________________ >>> >>> Regards, >>> benny >>> >>> --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Philippe Beaudette <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> From: Philippe Beaudette <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [Translators-l] Reminder on the urgent Jimmy >>> To: "Wikimedia Translators" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33 PM >>> >>> Just a gentle reminder: we have an appeal from Jimmy up at >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Translation . This one >>> will be pushed out to all wikis, so we really need it localized as much as >>> possible, please... any help you can give is gratefully appreciated. >>> pb >>> >>> _______________________ >>> Philippe Beaudette >>> Head of Reader Relations >>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share >>> in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! >>> http://donate.wikimedia.org >>> >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Translators-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Translators-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 >> member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp >> _______________________________________________ >> Translators-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Translators-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l > _______________________________________________ Translators-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l
