David,

I've read the responses to your question and would like to add:

This same idea came up while I was at Racal-Vadic in the 1979.  We looked
very carefully at the what occurred when an RJ-11 was plugged into an RJ-45
jack.  The following was noted:

1.  The body of the RJ-11 does not have a recesses for the 2 outside
contacts (pins 1 & 8) of the RJ-45 jack.  The body of the plug causes
contacts 1 & 8 to be forced back into the RJ-45 jack deforming them.

2.  The deformation causes the electrical connection of pins 1 & 8 to be
unreliable if RJ-45  jack is subsequently used in an RJ-45 application.

3.  Some RJ-11 manufacturers cut corners by not building the body of the
plug exactly as AT&T originally specified.  As a consequence they fit too
loosly in the RJ-45 jack and make poor electrical contact.

I actually tried it again in my lab with a new RJ-45 jack, and concluded
pins 1 & 8 are deformed causing unreliable electrical contact.

In my opinion it will be a problem out in the field.  Just a Joe Randolph
stated and experienced.  I also agree there will be approval problems in
some countries.

Duane Marcroft
Telecom and Data Communications Consultant



>Hello listmembers,
>
>Here is an interesting question put to me by our design engineers.  They
>want to
>use RJ-45 jacks on all telephone interface types, including a standard
>telephone
>interface.  Is there any problem from an approvals perspective using an RJ-11
>plug in an RJ-45 jack?  Our designers claim they fit, but it seems forced
>to me.
>Opinions?
>
>Regards,
>
>David.
>
>David Gelfand
>Approvals Group Leader
>Memotec Communications Inc.

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