If you cannot have an intelligent discussion and debate with decorum, then
you only continue to show the folly that is the future of systemd. GNU/Linux
began with debate/discussion when did that end?
That may have ended once some users started considering that they are
entitled to take part in a technical conversion without knowing shit about
the technical problems that are solved. You did not even know that you run
some systemd modules (and even after I point it out, you still write that
systemd is monolithic...) on top of Upstart (you write that "we all enjoy
sysvinit" when Trisquel has actually been using Upstart since 2008)! With
such a level on expertise on init systems, how can you even imagine that your
discussion is intelligent?!
Your supposedly "intelligent discussion" is not based on facts. You do not
give any reference (a discussion on a BSD forum does not support any fact).
Not even when I repetitively ask for such references. I sincerely would like
to read on how Red Hat forces systemd onto other distributions, on its wish
to have its own kernel, on how systemd makes the system prone to viruses, on
how it hides running processes, on how binary logs are less secure... but I
guess those are just lies.
Like the lies you told about GNOME requiring "systemd as a hard dependency",
about Kay Sievers trying "to hardwire the kernel to require systemd", or
about "Debian's board replaced with Red Hat employees". I took the time to
show you, through references, that all this is pure bullshit:
https://trisquel.info/forum/could-trisquel-8-switch-mate#comment-71427
https://trisquel.info/forum/could-trisquel-8-switch-mate#comment-71493
https://trisquel.info/forum/could-systemd-be-inconvenient-portability#comment-71619
I have better things to do. Unfortunately, those users, who feel entitled to
discuss technical topics they know nothing about, tend to be more and more
numerous. They repeat the lies like-minded users wrote before them. And the
whole thing generates tensions. Tollef Fog Heen wrote in
http://err.no/personal/blog/tech/Debian/2014-11-16-23-55_resigning_from_pkg-systemd
about a "poisonous" environment:
Apparently, people care when you, as privileged person (white, male,
long-time Debian Developer) throw in the towel because the amount of crap
thrown your way just becomes too much. I guess that's good, both because it
gives me a soap box for a short while, but also because if enough people talk
about how poisonous the well that Debian is has become, we can fix it.
Are we here to discuss this intelligently or only squabble about who is right
or wrong?
Are you really writing that an "intelligent discussion" should not be based
on "right" things, on facts? Incredible.
If the later, this long time opensource advocate is not interested.
Good. Let us stop here. Please. This long time *free software* advocate is
not interested in discussing with people that believe that lies are OK.
