My understanding is that people are getting the computers. The problem here is Todd is claiming, falsely, that the computers are ever going to be freedom-respecting the same way Gluglug's refurbished laptops are, when they are actually at best no better than Think Penguin's in that respect.

Actually, it seems to me that they're also charging premiums for this; it's possible to get a laptop from Think Penguin which seems to be similar to the low-end Librem 15 configuration for around $500 less. I'm not entirely sure about this, though; comparing hardware that you don't have physical access to is difficult. It's not that important, anyway; having a more expensive, higher-end option similar to Think Penguin would be perfectly legitimate and good. The problem is they promise much more, and what they promise (a high-end, modern x86 laptop which respects your freedom) simply cannot be delivered.

Purism also seems to have no qualms with adding in more freedom problems on the pretense that they're eventually going to be fixed (and note, of course, that they're already promising to fix impossible to fix problems), so that makes me hesitant to recommend or consider one of their laptops. I'd say that you should consider them the same way you would consider a laptop from distributors like System76, ZaReason, et al: look closely at the specs, replace the stock OS with Trisquel, and expect problems.

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