> Have you ever even talked to Allwinner? Did you work toward getting the
> code released at all? No. You didn't. We did.

So far, we've lacked the resources, not the intention. This is a legitimate concern, but what you're doing here is trying to make it look like we lack the intent. Once again, you are attempting to slander the libreboot project.

Did you release something tangible that people can actually use? No, you didn't. We did, and we're about to do it a whole lot more. Just you watch.

> I've got nothing against you working on free'ing X86. I just don't think
> it is the right approach. I think it is a wasted effort when we have
> *other* more important projects that need to be worked on that'll make
> the difference between the community having a more permanent solution
> and never having one ever.

I don't give a fuck whether you're for or against the libreboot project. It will continue, with or without your approval.

Libreboot is not wasted effort. We are providing a solution today, and almost noone else is. We're working every day to push things forward, in ways that you are intellectually and creatively incapable.

> I've stuck to my words that Lenovo is a horrible company...

I agree with this part.

> ...I'd rather not be promoting. The promotion is not intentional on your
> part. And I'm not blaming you for it. Just I think its the wrong direction.

It makes zero difference. Lenovo will continue to exist, regardless of what we do in the libreboot project. I doubt that our "contribution" to them, if any, is more than a tiny drop in a vast ocean.

> You had no choice but to use Lenovo or Apple because those were the only real options. > The work to port coreboot to them was already done (except apparently one model, > but you got lucky, because of illicitly obtained info, which implicates anybody who > bought your laptops or downloads libreboot). It's no different than us building off Intel.
> There aren't any good options.

Illicit? I'm pretty sure RE is legal in Europe, but whatever.

We're doing what we can to improve things, and I would like to see more people contributing to libreboot directly. I work every day to try to make this happen.

> Not by any means. We didn't want to do it- you pushed us into it.

What? I'm pretty sure that's not the case. But OK, have it your way.

> There are plenty of people who disagree with me. And thats fine. But you don't need to attack me for it.

That's right, but they don't call you out on your BS, like I'm now doing.

> Acting as if this is some great project to benefit man kind is a joke. It's not.

You see, this is why people should stop taking you seriously. The libreboot project is doing what you failed to do, and what the FSF has called for for many years. We're making progress, and we'll get to where we all want to be in the end.

The difference is that we just do it. We don't wait. This is why the libreboot project is so successful.

> I don't care what-so-ever about libreboot

Yep. That much is certain to me. Another reason why I don't take you seriously at all.

> We don't need libreboot or coreboot *at all* and never have.

Tell that to the FSF. And I dare you to say that to the coreboot developers. They'll shoot your down, for being the ignorant, misinformed twit that you are.

> Also reverse engineering is not the ideal solution

Agreed. See my previous comments about producing own hardware (it's also listed as a priority task on the libreboot website).

What I see in your comments, is that you clearly aren't the type of person that we need to push things forward. Libreboot is one such project that has pushed things forward, and is continuing to do so. There are also many others, none of which you are involved with.

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