> What you said about libreboot using leaked docs is factually false.
> It was pure RE, the rest was based on public datasheets.

Your lying.

> If you want to continue slandering the libreboot project,

It's not slander when it is true and I'm 99.5% certain since I've seen the logs. I believe I can get the logs of you stating you used confidential documents that were leaked for the one laptop in which you actually ported coreboot too still.

This is a big no no. I'm not the only person you have a grudge with and I'm pretty confident the person who has those logs will be happy to provide them.

I've not said anything until now explicitly because I have *no interest* in attacking you, your work, or libreboot, and see little value in compromising the integrity of any of it- or other projects for that matter (despite the stupidity of *your* actions and utter attack on me).

However that said I will try and get my hands on those logs if you want to keep pressing me on this.

> Are you seriously saying that libreboot is illegal?

I didn't say that. Libreboot in itself is not illegal. You did compromise the legal integrity of the project though and probably coreboot now.

>  There you go again. Libreboot is not a dead-end project, at all.
> We're working all the time on adding new hardware support. We're currently focussing on ARM

Yea- I don't think that you think that Libreboot is a dead-end project. You only think x86 is. It's a small point in either case. I do think libreboot is a dead-end project though given it's utterly useless for other architectures which we actually have a chance at completely or near-completely freeing. You can do it, but that doesn't mean it adds any value to a free software laptop as we don't need libreboot for ARM and other architectures. We have other bootloaders under free software licenses that we (and others) can use. In fact we're already using them!

I also wanted to point out that the FSF isn't going to laugh at us like you implied previously. For one the majority of people support and respect what I have to say (even if I am wrong about something). Nobody is perfect.

> For the paragraph that this sentence is from: no. You had absolutely rotten intentions, which
> I've already talked about in this thread, and will not repeat again.

You NEVER pointed to any rotten intentions. All you did was say we/I had rotten intentions at best. You did misconstrue events to try and produce rotten intentions- that much I will agree with you on.

> Coreboot is even considered a *high priority project* by the Free Software Foundation, as is libreboot.

It's been that way for a long time and hasn't gotten anywhere. There aren't any significant laptop deployments using it . It's now quickly becoming irrelevant. The only systems we can completely free are using architectures for which it's irrelevant.

We don't need the excessive baggage that comes with coreboot/libreboot. We can reduce the size of the bootloader significantly via the use of other free bootloaders.

In any event it shouldn't be insulting to coreboot/libreboot developers. It is a good project. It's just that its time has come and gone. Didn't you even say five minutes ago that it was dead or dying?

> You are opposing the very movement that you claim to be supporting.

No. That is your interpretation of it. I've done everything in my power to further advance free software friendly hardware.

> I've come to the conclusion that ThinkPenguin is as bad as Purism, especially after their
> comment that coreboot is "not needed".

The reason Purism is bad is because they're lying and misleading people into thinking they have or are about to have a 100% free laptop. We've done no such thing. Anybody who has ever asked us "do your computers computer with coreboot/libreboot?" has gotten a response saying something to this effect:

No, but coreboot is not entirely free, and libreboot is, but it is not possible to port it to modern computers without the cooperation of Intel and unfortunately Intel is not cooperating. There are digital restrictions in newer Intel hardware and we're working on solving these problems. However it won't be possible to do so with the current laptops. We are working on other projects though so hopefully some day we will have a better answer to this problem.

!!!...Sometimes we've even linked people to minifree/gluglug...!!!

Go listen to Freedoms Phoenix with Ernest Hancock. I know at least one of the shows I did with him (I did several, find the ones with me or thinkpenguin listed) I even mentioned gluglug on the air in a *positive light*. That isn't something someone who is out to get you does. There is *zero* benefit for me to do that on a program that nobody here or in the free software community is likely to even be listening to.
























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