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> Send Trom mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Trom and Axiom 31 (Mickel) > 2. Re: Trom and Axiom 31 (Pete McLaughlin) > 3. Re: Trom and Axiom 31 (Mickel) > 4. Re: Trom and Axiom 31 (Leo) Hi to everyone It's the first time that I am posting here so I am not sure if I do it right. I listened several times to the tape "The Philosophy of TROM" and I think that I understood it quite well although it's quite hard to confront. Now here's my conclusions: Good or bad is an opinion if it has to do with morals. Morals regulate games, it is the rules how to play a specific game. Good or bad is not an opinion if it has to do with ethics. Ethics stands above games and regulates whether or not or how tough one should play games or a specific game. Leo > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:45:47 -0000 > From: "Mickel" <[email protected]> > Subject: [TROM1] Trom and Axiom 31 > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <113913531b1f413da579dc9e14552...@everest> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi to Everyone and Hope you all have a good year in 2010. > > I have been listening to the talk "The Philosophy of Trom" today, and it's > been hard work I can tell you. > > I think I had very little understanding of Axiom 31 when I first read it > many years ago or probably I never worked it out properly for myself. > > By listening to this part of the lecture over and over again I am gradually > getting it so my persistence is worthwhile. > > Some very interesting data in that talk and although I am still far from > level 5 I can start to understand a bit about these goal packages. > > Best > Mike > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:19:28 -0800 > From: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom and Axiom 31 > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <a09ed57097c549eb9c931541af15b...@toughboo05d7e2> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > HI Mickel > > Axiom 31. Goodness and badness, beautifulness and ugliness are alike > considerations and have no other basis than opinion. > > > > Reducing axiom 31 to minimum it is "considerations are cosniderations." > What part of the Philosophy of Trom leclture did you feel connected with > this axiom? > > > > Sincerely > > > > Pete > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mickel" <[email protected]> > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:45 PM > Subject: [TROM1] Trom and Axiom 31 > > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > ************ > > Hi to Everyone and Hope you all have a good year in 2010. > > > > I have been listening to the talk "The Philosophy of Trom" today, and > it's > > been hard work I can tell you. > > > > I think I had very little understanding of Axiom 31 when I first read it > > many years ago or probably I never worked it out properly for myself. > > > > By listening to this part of the lecture over and over again I am > > gradually > > getting it so my persistence is worthwhile. > > > > Some very interesting data in that talk and although I am still far from > > level 5 I can start to understand a bit about these goal packages. > > > > Best > > Mike > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:13:17 -0000 > From: "Mickel" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom and Axiom 31 > To: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]>, "The Resolution of > Mind list" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <101ed55adcc64b29aee91f6880c97...@everest> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Pete > There is something not right here in what Dennis is saying, either I have a > huge MU here or He is not explaining what he means correctly. > > He seems to leave out our cultural agreements in his explanation, I can see > what Dennis means from one angle but looking into my mind I can see that > Goodness and Badness are considerations, I have particular opinions on what > is good or bad which differ from other peoples considerations or opinions. > > It is true that if you tried to run a society in an Hedonistic way it would > eventually collapse but our societies have rules and regulations on which > the majority Agree. > > There are endless examples I can think up in which certain actions, beliefs > and so on are right or Good in one country or amongst certain people that > are totally wrong from another group of people viewpoints. > > Also, I look at it this way, within the mind we have words, symbols, points > of agreement and so on, step outside the mind and Life IS! just as it is, a > Being has now moved beyond cause and effect, beyond any questions or > needing > any answers, the polarities have merged. > Best > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete McLaughlin" <[email protected]> > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:19 AM > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom and Axiom 31 > > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > > ************ > > HI Mickel > > > > Axiom 31. Goodness and badness, beautifulness and ugliness are alike > > considerations and have no other basis than opinion. > > > > > > > > Reducing axiom 31 to minimum it is "considerations are cosniderations." > > What part of the Philosophy of Trom leclture did you feel connected with > > this axiom? > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mickel" <[email protected]> > > To: "The Resolution of Mind list" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:45 PM > > Subject: [TROM1] Trom and Axiom 31 > > > > > >> ************* > >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > >> ************ > >> Hi to Everyone and Hope you all have a good year in 2010. > >> > >> I have been listening to the talk "The Philosophy of Trom" today, and > >> it's > >> been hard work I can tell you. > >> > >> I think I had very little understanding of Axiom 31 when I first read it > >> many years ago or probably I never worked it out properly for myself. > >> > >> By listening to this part of the lecture over and over again I am > >> gradually > >> getting it so my persistence is worthwhile. > >> > >> Some very interesting data in that talk and although I am still far from > >> level 5 I can start to understand a bit about these goal packages. > >> > >> Best > >> Mike > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Trom mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 > 09:20:00 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 66, Issue 1 > *********************************** >
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