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I'd personally like to get off it (the planet), though I do appreciate it as far as it goes. Do you think that's possible (OOB I mean, get born somewhere else)?
On a side note, I wonder if Dennis came back here, or went somewhere else? (or maybe he didn't achieve full recall). Even the Dali Lama says he (the Dali) probably won't be coming back here again. I suspect the DL is more 'prison warden' than 'freedom fighter', now it's clear that his people aren't gonna free the planet anytime soon, he's not really needed to keep them in check anymore, he can retire, or go back home or whatever. I've listened to hours of Tenzin's speeches and they boil down to this: be good, accept your misery, chant a lot and remember: it takes billions of kalpas of eons of wall staring (or some such), to get free like me, so don't even try, just be nice to each other instead! Smells like a scam to me. Does no-one have the stomach for a prison break these days? :) We are 2,010 years on from the last real freedom fighter (other than Ron, but he never came back either, unlike the Big Cheese (as Filbert calls him)). Regards, J On 30 November 2010 19:59, Slim <[email protected]> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > > When you are our of body and have conversations with this planet , now > that's thee shit boyeeeee > > Planet earth is a bueatiful > > On Nov 29, 2010, at 12:19 PM, me me <[email protected]> wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by <[email protected]> > [email protected] > ************ > > Thanks Pete, > > You are right, of course. My frustration level is very high :) > > I have tried that one on myself a few times before. Does it need another > terminal to give the command, or can I give myself the command? > > When I try it, I see an image of myself, looking at myself from behind > myself (as if my viewpoint is a camera watching myself externalizing), and I > suspect it's just a mental image. That if I turned around, I wouldn't be > able to see anything I didn't already know was there :( Do you have to > consciously make your viewpoint correct when exteriorizing, or should it > happen automatically and naturally? > > Also, is the end result, purely a viewpoint from a body exterior location, > or is there more to it than that (eg - the feeling that you have some mass > or something visual moving along with you). > > Do you do this with the body's eyes closed, to cut off visual input? > > I don't remember ever exteriorizing at will in this life, even when under > anasthetic and injured. I am stuck well and truly in my body (though I > postulate that I am not). > > Having said that, I do believe that recently I may have exteriorized > without realising it, when half asleep or very tired, i have had vivid > images of places I knew were real, and felt real at the time (a hotel lobby > near the sunbed I was dozing on), and some random streets I had never seen > before, which felt very real. Dreams or exteriorizations? > > And with regard to sensations. Is there a particular way you feel when > exterior, so you can distinguish it from a visualisation? > > My current job is quite high power, and leaves me washed out on my off time > very often. One time recently I was lying down, trying to watch TV, and I > wanted to move to pick up something, but my body was exhausted, but I felt I > had another body that I could move, inside of my physical body, I moved the > arms and then got freaked and stopped. Is that an indicator of anything? Or > was it just exhaustion? > > Thanks for the input Pete. > > Regards, > > J > > On 29 November 2010 19:41, Pete McLaughlin < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by <[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> ************ >> >
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