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Its very easy to leave once you know where to leave from.  

Theres a church of scientology  procedure called Routine 45 i think it was, or 
something like that ,  that will exteriorize anyone .......fast. You shoot them 
dead point blank with a colt 45 pistol.  

You are not required to stay in your body, on this planet as a body or in this 
universe as a spiritual being .

Realize you are in a trap
Discover the true nature of the trap
Walk out of the trap.

I'm staying until the basic law that governs this universe is eliminated. Then 
I'm going home.

This planet is a beautiful spiritual being with a body , a bigger body than we 
have that lives much longer than ours do. But shes a beautiful being and i love 
her with all my heart. She will be free soon too. We use to be together in 
another space and time dimension. It feels so good to be with her again . 

   



On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:34 PM, me me <[email protected]> wrote:

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> I'd personally like to get off it (the planet), though I do appreciate it as 
> far as it goes. Do you think that's possible (OOB I mean, get born somewhere 
> else)?
> 
> On a side note, I wonder if Dennis came back here, or went somewhere else? 
> (or maybe he didn't achieve full recall).
> 
> Even the Dali Lama says he (the Dali) probably won't be coming back here 
> again.
> 
> I suspect the DL is more 'prison warden' than 'freedom fighter', now it's 
> clear that his people aren't gonna free the planet anytime soon, he's not 
> really needed to keep them in check anymore, he can retire, or go back home 
> or whatever.
> 
> I've listened to hours of Tenzin's speeches and they boil down to this: be 
> good, accept your misery, chant a lot and remember: it takes billions of 
> kalpas of eons of wall staring (or some such), to get free like me, so don't 
> even try, just be nice to each other instead!
> 
> Smells like a scam to me.
> 
> Does no-one have the stomach for a prison break these days? :)
> 
> We are 2,010 years on from the last real freedom fighter (other than Ron, but 
> he never came back either, unlike the Big Cheese (as Filbert calls him)).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> J
> 
> On 30 November 2010 19:59, Slim <[email protected]> wrote:
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> When you are our of body and have conversations with this planet , now that's 
> thee shit boyeeeee
> 
> Planet earth is a bueatiful  
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> On Nov 29, 2010, at 12:19 PM, me me <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Thanks Pete,
>> 
>> You are right, of course. My frustration level is very high :)
>> 
>> I have tried that one on myself a few times before. Does it need another 
>> terminal to give the command, or can I give myself the command?
>> 
>> When I try it, I see an image of myself, looking at myself from behind 
>> myself (as if my viewpoint is a camera watching myself externalizing), and I 
>> suspect it's just a mental image. That if I turned around, I wouldn't be 
>> able to see anything I didn't already know was there :( Do you have to 
>> consciously make your viewpoint correct when exteriorizing, or should it 
>> happen automatically and naturally?
>> 
>> Also, is the end result, purely a viewpoint from a body exterior location, 
>> or is there more to it than that (eg - the feeling that you have some mass 
>> or something visual moving along with you).
>> 
>> Do you do this with the body's eyes closed, to cut off visual input?
>> 
>> I don't remember ever exteriorizing at will in this life, even when under 
>> anasthetic and injured. I am stuck well and truly in my body (though I 
>> postulate that I am not).
>> 
>> Having said that, I do believe that recently I may have exteriorized without 
>> realising it, when half asleep or very tired, i have had vivid images of 
>> places I knew were real, and felt real at the time (a hotel lobby near the 
>> sunbed I was dozing on), and some random streets I had never seen before, 
>> which felt very real. Dreams or exteriorizations? 
>> 
>> And with regard to sensations. Is there a particular way you feel when 
>> exterior, so you can distinguish it from a visualisation?
>> 
>> My current job is quite high power, and leaves me washed out on my off time 
>> very often. One time recently I was lying down, trying to watch TV, and I 
>> wanted to move to pick up something, but my body was exhausted, but I felt I 
>> had another body that I could move, inside of my physical body, I moved the 
>> arms and then got freaked and stopped. Is that an indicator of anything? Or 
>> was it just exhaustion?
>> 
>> Thanks for the input Pete.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> On 29 November 2010 19:41, Pete McLaughlin <[email protected]> wrote:
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