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Hi David, the 4th LKin volume is free, and is downloadable in pdf format from the link I posted :)
Regards, Jon On 25 December 2010 22:48, David M. Pelly <[email protected]> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > > > Thanks Harry, for your reply to my post on possession. > > I am of a similar spirit to you, that is putting my paws where they are > not supposed to be, and even more of a rebel type free spirit and one who > gathers data and then thinks for myself. > > I don't believe anything, as believing something does not make it true, so > why would I want to believe something that is not true or may not be true. > > I only want to know. > > I have posted similar in the past on this list and others and I just > realized that it is almost in the same class as Dennis'; a beings main or > only purpose is "to know and be known". > > I first heard the concept of intellectual function as I stated ( to know > )back in 89 at a little lecture a lady was holding in her basement near > Toronto. > > I just made this connection, after struggling with TROM for three years. > > But her datum was that a person should categorize data into three groups" > > 1. know > > 2. don't know > > 3. not sure. > > And not believe, as believing would actually fall under either 2 or 3 . > Opinions are of the same order. > > > > I got off on a tangent there but back to the possession problem, I thank > you for your viewpoint. > > I will listen to the tapes. > > I searched L. Kins books as Jon posted, but it looks like I will have to > order the books. > > I talked to him on the phone a few times when he was leaving Las Vegas in > about 03 or 04 and moving to the east coast and I bought his cd. I recall > getting nothing really useful from it, at least not that i was able to > gather at that time. I thought I still had it, but it looks like I threw it > out, because it is not in my cd pile. > > I am still open to other viewpoints and especially experiences from others > on entities and possession. > > I have heard a fair number of stories on possession and a friend told me of > some real poltergeist activities he personally experienced. > > And Jesus talks about excorsizing in the bible and telling Satan to get > behind him. > > I just remembered that back in the 80s and especially in 89 I was driving > truck and I felt these invisible things hitting me in my face and all over > my head, like invisible birds diving and flying into me. > > They were so bad that I could hardly do my work and they were driving me > mad. I found my self screaming at them and shooing them away like flies, > but they would disappear for a minute or so and return. There were lots of > them. > > So I recalled reading in the bible about how Jesus commanded Satan to get > behind him. > > I thought about that and figured if Jesus could do it, so could I, as > these things must obey us. > > So I did, but I did not want them behind me or near me, so I told them to > eff off and get out of my universe. > > It took a while, I do not remember how long, but they eventually > disappeared. > > I recall more now and I recall that I used that process for many yrs. I > think it was even for a few yrs after I got into scientology in 97. I > haven't had that problem since. > > > So I think there is something to it. > > I was quite certain that I was freed of all such entities. But maybe I am > not. > > I also just remember that there is a lot of information on such stuff in > Oahspe. They are called "grafters" in Oahspe. > > Meaning spirits who graft on to people. > > They are of people who died and do not know what to do when they get to > that dimension, because they did not do their spiritual homework while in > the body. > > But I would like to know everything possible about this subject from people > who are experienced and knowledgeable with scientology. > > > David > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >
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