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On Jul 20, 2012, at 5:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:

If there is no "must" then there is no "game".

This is not true. The word 'must' is not the determining factor of whether or not there is a game or no game. Anytime there are opposing postulates with another or other players, there is a game. Because there are 4 basic flows in this MEST Universe, one could even have a game with himself. As long as neither side gives up their opposing postulate, the game is in place and continues. So the word 'must' is only a modifier of the game and actually modifies the game into both sources having the games condition.

An example not given is that only one source has a 'must' and the other does not. Well you still have a game as long as there are opposing postulates and until one of the side drops their opposing postulate and then there is no game and also no games condition.

must not know (the SD postulate) vs. must know (the PD postulate)
or
must know (the SD postulate) vs. must not know (the PD postulate) ..... both are just a game that also includes a games condition.

not Know (the SD postulate) vs. know (the PD postulate)
or
Know (the SD postulate) vs. not know (the PD postulate) ..... both are just a game for there are opposing postulates

Know (the SD postulate) and know (the PD postulate)
or
Not Know (the SD postulate) and not know (the PD postulate) ..... both are similar and can be called complimentary. They are not exactly the same for each is from a different source. The fact that they are not in opposition means that there is no game.

Let me know if you need the definition of game and games condition.


Me: There is a ball sitting on the floor in front of us.
You: No there isn't.

Me: OK

If I accept that "for you" there is no ball there, then no game ensues.

This is only true if there is a neutral position taken or a complimentary position taken. The only way to end the game is for both to agree that there is either a ball there or no ball there. Then too the game may be postponed should neither continue to insist on their viewpoint to another. Your statement that 'if [you] accept that there is no ball there' as being the viewpoint of the other position, nothing has been changed other than one viewpoint duplicating and acknowledging the viewpoint of the other and has not changed his viewpoint which is still in opposition to the other source. There is no agreement by both sources arrived at in the example. So the game is still on but may have been postponed for another time.

If, on the other hand, I insist that you adopt a complementary postulate and
you refuse to do so, ah well, then we can have a nice game.

Removal of the compulsion is just one step along the way. TROM or any
process that has you inspecting your existence can take you even further
beyond the mere removal of compulsive games play.

Yes but also as in most therapies, causative repetition without force (cause from the external source) from any and all external sources will eventually have the PC look at what he is repetitively doing (confront) and upon such inspection, the PC will be installing space between himself and his compulsion which will eventually lead to cause on his part and freedom from the compulsion which is now over there.

This is the Tech of therapies, of cause - cause which then allows the PC to cognite because he is not longer the compulsion but has moved it away from himself. From Scn you can see this as a demonstration of the auditing cycle where LRH says the session done correctly is both auditor and PC being cause. And the same with TROM and meditation, the PC is being cause - cause (self to self) and thereby confronts, becomes cause and the compulsion is no longer that, a compulsion.

The trap is carefully constructed. Even the state of "nothingness" is part of this trap, for it will draw you back into MEST. That needs to be run out
as well.

Those traps which are a class of case are one in the same. If this were not true then one could not get case gain by repetitive examination, examination without any coercion.

Nirvana is not a state of nothingness. The physical universe is not the ONLY
universe in which to play.

There are many and actually an infinite amount of universes which a Thetan/spirit may have play for there is no limit to creation by the Thetan/spirit. A simple example, play can exist in the Theta Universe alone.

Brian



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