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David,
First off, I have affinity and experience with both of those viewpoints and
many many other viewpoints on the subject of money that I have explored and
processed, lived through, dreamed, imagined and dealt with on all kinds of
weird and wonderful levels, for years upon dreary years of largely self
initiated unsupported and unrecognised (in any financial/commercial sense) solo
efforts.
Lil ole me and the ENTIRE physical and metaphysical domain of money and all it
contains, every sort of priest and priestess and mind-bending/distracting
control structure installed therein, I’ve seen and dealt with most of it in
some form or another, and probably there is still much more, though I suspect
it is floundering in its ‘power base’ these days. Life is supporting me in this
without a doubt and ready to topple the whole thing in timely fashion, though
as a creation even then I suspect it will never be gone, we’ll have to deal
with it sooner or later.
And have, to put this into greater context, spent the vast majority of my adult
life in more struggle than I care to mention here with the subject of money
until I decided I no longer desired to do that and so changed my mind, very
recently in fact, and guess what, my world started changing too, little by
little, small advance by small advance, and still does, BTW I’m by no means
rich by the standards I measure my progress, but able, equipped, and more so
each day, and that to me feels in keeping with creativity and flow of life to
develop and progress itself through all available capacities, many of which
have nothing at all to do with the money I will add (like our activities here
in the TROM forum – a gift) and some which for now do.
And on the remark ‘talk is cheap’ I could not disagree more with the idea, I
postulate very differently, as far as I’m concerned and have experienced talk
made correctly is perhaps THE greatest value and power we as human beings have
for our-self and each other, besides the power source itself, talk is a direct
way to use the power which exists, I know this, the postulate ‘talk is cheap’
will not stop me talking, but I will stop if you ask me to, that I guarantee.
And on the actual subject of ‘having money’, though I have it in tangible form,
like all illusions I know it is illusory however much or little, quantity makes
no difference to its fictional basis, made up is made up, period.
In my research I find the logical current modern foundation of money we can all
point a finger at and rest and eye on in physical manifestation/representation
is total BS, it is provable fiction, fairytales, a mass hallucination of sorts,
I challenge anyone to follow the bills to source and tell me you find some
actual lawful structure for it upon which our lives and this world actually
depend, I bet you cannot find one in reality if you’re being fully honest, not
a real one anyway, only ones we made up, or others made up and we bought into.
Money serves its purpose and place like blood in the veins but is hardly the
life itself, only the conveyor, and becomes and is what we decide, money can be
anything we like, in the same way blood and basic cells can form into ANY organ
or semblance of form, quite literally, and that is 100% our responsibility on a
certain level, how that appears (or not).
So yes I have money, enough for present needs, and more to come to deal with
new needs and situations that present themselves in the context of money, and
I’m using it to tend to the best things I know to improve mine and others
lives, this I postulate and affirm for mine and everyone’s benefit who can
benefit, but in a sense what I have and hold and use as money is as far as I’m
concerned an illusion, at best a useful temporary medium, and I KNOW it!
And though its really none of my business or important in any ultimate sense, I
feel you should know it too, or at least consider it, whatever side of the
money fence you sit; for, against, oblivious, utterly 100% transcendent of it
yet willing to communicate (in that case help us out here please, thankyou,
though of course I know you already did ; )
I hope this helps clarify the context I’m coming from here?
And again thanks, I hope you take these recent posts as what they are, an
on-going peaceful-confrontational process that I’m choosing to share openly as
it emerges, my game in this sense is discovery and this is usually what I find
leads to it.
Oh, and BTW I’m happy to stop anytime of course, jus say the word!
Sean
p.s.
*Come on to me and all these things you want shall be given to you and your
house made to overflowing when you obey my tenets. Ask and it shall be
give on to you.*
Thanks David, I Am working on it!
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Sean,
Thank you for your reply.
Several viewpoints and responses popped into view for me.
1. It was based on pretty good reasoning.
2. But it is easy to talk like you do, when you have a pocket full of
money and more on the way. Talk is cheap.
It is a very different story when you have no money.
3.The bible gives an option to depending on the MEST universe (physical
world) for a person's sustenance.
It says something to the effect:
*Come on to me and all these things you want shall be given to you and your
house made to overflowing when you obey my tenets. Ask and it shall be
give on to you.*
>From what I gather, there are people who have mastered the idea.
It correlates well with what Dennis says re: living by postulates.
It is a datum of comparable magnitude.
David
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