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Ok Aarre Take a look at this "telepathy" effect from the the point of the 4 basic postulates in this universe
Must be known Must not be known Must know Must not know If you want to communicate with another are they willing to be communicated with? If so then that the effect will work if not then it won't. Or look at it from the point of self determined and pan determined postulates. If you put out a pan determined postulate and the other person is willing to experience it or un-aware that pan determined postulates exist he I'll be effected by the pan determined postulate. So when the California tax revenues people wanted to collect some taxes from me on an out of state purchase I had shipped in I talked to them on the phone and was vague about recalling what they were talking about and I sent the agent a pan determined postulate that "this as really too small a bill to waste time on". They never called back and the bill went uncollected. Now as this a case of "telepathy" that worked or just wishful thinking on my part that pan determined postulates can cause other to change their action? You will have to try it yourself and see if you can make pan determined postulates work for you or not. Keep on TROMing Pete McLaughlin Sent from my iPad > On May 24, 2016, at 10:16 PM, The Resolution of Mind list > <[email protected]> wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Pete, > > HAUNTED MIND (SPOOKY !) > > Great data; that helps, but I'm still in a Doubt condition on the yea or nea > of it all. I would tend to think that there is no haunted mind except as > created for entertainment, as in the lecture about the Surprise Game. I > still don't understand... If you and I are in excellent case shape and > are telepathic as nearly all the ET's (aliens) are, and we don't need > language to communicate, ... Then why couldn't I say hello to you one > night without my body. Dennis used have his viewpoint go over at night > without body and check that Ann Walker was ok. If I had bad intentions, > then why couldn't I just not put a bad postulate/intention into that person's > space, and make the intention stick (as in Black Voodoo) ? (But, maybe > this is it)... Dennis says that if it can communicate to you, then you > can communicate to it. Then how could someone be injured by this, unless he > decided that he could receive an effect telepathically, but would have to > have amnesia with and not be able to respond back to the other (as in > hypnosis).. I am convinced that hypnosis does work, but only on some > people who are willingly suggestible. L Ron Hubbard used to use hypnosis, > but to help the other person. If a person was willingly suggestible > hypnotically, then why couldn't some nasty being with high psychic > abilities, and also high aberrations (evil intentions), not be able to > screw with his head without his conscious knowledge (not know the experience) > . ???? > > I'm really begging for some really > good answers to this, > and am far from satiated > on this matter. > > Aarre Peltomaa > > p.s. In many videos about aliens, I repeatedly see that aliens can't screw > with each other's heads, as they are all telepathic, but can screw with > Homo Sapiens' head, because we were driven way downscale, and lost most of > our previous abilities. Since Atlantis, we only have 2 dna strands, don't > remember our past lives readily, and in short, as closer to barn yard > animals in our spirituality. Dr. Steven Greer, whom I greatly admire, > claims that no ET's have bad intentions towards us, but others disagree. > Could it be that we have most of the bad intentions, so, to avoid the rap, > we blame them for ruining our lives (natter)??? L Ron Hubbard was paranoid, > and said that the 'Marcabians' routinely 'implanted ' us mentally with > overwhelms. These were done spiritually, mentally, or physically with > devices. > p.p.s. I don't really think that I need this data urgently for my auditing > until I get into the overwhelms (level 4). > I'm getting tired; over and out. > Aarre (again) > > Questions, questions; does anyone have any direct darn answers ? > Since, 'I must know'. > >> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:03 AM, The Resolution of Mind list >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> >> Hi Aarre >> I am a Must Be Known and can't believe in body thetans and such. Before >> studying TROM I went to places that were "haunted" and had a couple of >> experiences with people who claimed they were possed by spirits or were >> mediums etc. but felt they were lying, or putting on a show to make money >> etc. >> After studying TROM those experiences fell into place. I can see that "Must >> Knows" would feel that spirits are real but also can see that my feelings >> are the result of my Must be known point of view. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete McLaughlin >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 23, 2016, at 9:51 PM, The Resolution of Mind list >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>> ************ >>> Hi, >>> >>> Interesting !! >>> >>> If I said level 6a, instead of 5a in an earlier email, I flubbed. >>> >>> HAUNTED MIND THEORY >>> >>> By the way, what does anyone think of the 'haunted mind theory' warned >>> about in the 'Dissociation' lecture. Do you think Archons, angels, >>> devils, entities, and things that go boomp in the night can actually >>> exist while interfacing my our 'minds', as opposed to just talking to us >>> directly in our pedestrian world ? Is it true that just because Dennis >>> didn't have 'body thetans', and a haunted mind, that no one else >>> therefore was allowed to have one ?? >>> >>> Please, especially, Slim, Judith, and others finished or very closed to >>> finishing level 5, please, please answer with your own real anecdotes of >>> your own experiences. I will trust this data the most. This is one of my >>> most perplexing mysteries in TROMland. Project MKUltra seems to >>> suggest that the mind can be influenced in many ways that the being itself >>> has authorized to occur. MK stood for 'Mind Kontrol' with a German Nazi >>> 'K' instead of a 'C'. Our 'friends', the Nazis, survived Germany, and >>> were imported to the United States with Project Paperclip to wreck the >>> American people. Their vengeance. >>> >>> WE CREATE EVERYTHING WITH OUR POSTULATES, AND NOTHING EXISTS TO US UNLESS >>> WE CREATED IT . IF WE DID CREATE AND ALLOW A HAUNTED MIND TO EXIST BY >>> OUR POSTULATES ALONE, THEN IT WOULD EXIST? YES ?? >>> >>> Aarre Peltomaa >>> [email protected] >>> (647) 202-7267 >>> Mississauga, Ontario >>> >>> p.s. I am a 'Must Know' case, and I don't think that I suffer too much if >>> any from a 'haunted mind'. >>> p.p.s. I would love a very thorough forum on this. >>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:06 PM, The Resolution of Mind list >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> ************* >>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> Hi Marcus >>>> I do RI any time I need to sharpen my focus in the PT or destimulate an >>>> upset. I drink tea in the morning with breakfast but do not use it to >>>> stay awake during auditing. >>>> >>>> I have progressed with the processing to were I see the games people are >>>> playing and roles they are trying to get me to play in their games or >>>> games I am playing with others and end the game playing. >>>> I help others who are having trouble in life's games to get back at cause >>>> as in a neighbor who needed cedar to make a fence so I helped him by >>>> cutting 12 logs into 600 board feet of 1x12 cedar boards to make the fence >>>> or in a conversation with a fellow saw he was bragging about an >>>> achievement he had accomplished and instead of telling him about something >>>> I had done just complemented him on his accomplishment. >>>> >>>> I am becoming an accomplished voluntary game player. I use RI to achieve a >>>> no game state. >>>> >>>> Sincerely >>>> Pete McLaughlin >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:58 PM, The Resolution of Mind list >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ************* >>>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>>> ************ >>>>> Thanks for the replies guys! >>>>> >>>>> I don't really care what other people think about them. The reason I'm >>>>> asking is to maybe possibly get a new point of view from these guys on >>>>> their solo auditing. >>>>> >>>>> And I did get some clarification based on some responses. The thing about >>>>> Dennis is that sometimes those comments would come from people that >>>>> seemed to have the 'credentials' to give a solid opinion and such. >>>>> >>>>> Responding Pete, I think it's a yes for all questions. I've been getting >>>>> the small successes as usual and observing (reality) a lot comparing >>>>> those games situations as you mentioned. But my interest in observing and >>>>> studying has been greater than the interest in looking at my past. Do you >>>>> do timebreaking at the end of a work day? Do you use caffeine before it? >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2016-04-10 21:43 GMT-03:00 The Resolution of Mind list >>>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>> ************* >>>>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>>>> ************ >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is good that you are doing some honest critical thinking and asking >>>>>> the hard questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: LRH: >>>>>> >>>>>> The best information I know of on LRH is written by Jon Atack in his >>>>>> book: >>>>>> >>>>>> A piece of blue sky. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do a search. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can often find a used copy of A Piece of Blue Sky in used book >>>>>> stores. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jon release a new edition recently. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not read it, nor have I read the first one either. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have met Jon Attack and know enough by just being on comm lines for a >>>>>> long enough time, to satisfy my desires on that subject. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And maybe his latest book: Scientology: a cult of greed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony Ortega interviews Jon a lot in his blogs: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://tonyortega.org/2013/08/26/what-motivated-l-ron-hubbard-historian-jon-atack-follows-the-clues/ >>>>>> >>>>>> http://tonyortega.org/scientology-mythbusting-with-historian-jon-atack/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You may get some insight from reading: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dianetics in Limbo by Helen O'Brian >>>>>> >>>>>> And watching you tube videos on Perry Chapdelaine. >>>>>> >>>>>> And reading Perry's book: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://scientolipedia.org/info/File:During_the_Dawn_of_Dianetics_and_Scientology_-_Perry_A._Chapdelaine,_Sr_.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are more books on LRH than I can or have time to read. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The story of scn is a story of considerable magnitude and diabolical >>>>>> super human complexity. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think there is anyone that knows more than a part of it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Probably Jon Atack knows more than most by far. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As for Dennis, I think you have access to everything that everyone else >>>>>> has. >>>>>> >>>>>> You just have to connect the dots and read what is going on between the >>>>>> lines and behind the scenes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 8:10 PM, The Resolution of Mind list >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> ************* >>>>>>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>>>>>> ************ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Multiple times on this list I've came across people, some critics, some >>>>>>> favorable, saying that Dennis didn't complete his level 5 in Trom. >>>>>>> Some even saying that he didn't ever had started it (L.5) - I think J. >>>>>>> Methven says this in a post. That always seemed kind of wild and >>>>>>> contradictory with the book itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this explained in any of the Trom's available materials? And is >>>>>>> there anything detailing Dennis' case evolution? I think I've >>>>>>> read/listened to at least 90% of all of Trom's supplementary materials >>>>>>> and I've never got anything that would clarify this subject. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Plus, is there any reliable material explaining how Ron (LRH) >>>>>>> developped his own case and all of his early insights (before he wrote >>>>>>> dianetics)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think anything relating to those subjects would be amazing reads. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> TROM mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> TROM mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TROM mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TROM mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TROM mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TROM mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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