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Hi David and Aarre
I am glad that David pointed out this line in your email as I missed it the 
first time I read it.  In fact Dennis stated that most of the mass of this 
universe and therefore the stars and planets are the by product of games play 
not the direct creation of objects by postulate.
So mass like hydrogen was created in games play along with space and time to 
play the games. The mass acting according to the laws of physics in this 
universe collected to become stars where low mass atoms are fused to higher 
mass atoms.  It took three generations of stars to produce the 98 chemical 
elements in the abundances found on Earth where the laws of physics allow life 
to create living things and geological forces to create mountains, seas an 
atmosphere etc.

People create their life and problems and games with their postulates but other 
people can also create problems and games for you and the geology and weather 
create problems for you when they happen to cause earthquakes, volcanic 
eruptions, storms etc.

Keep on TROMing
Pete



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> On May 25, 2016, at 7:34 AM, The Resolution of Mind list 
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> Aarre,
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> Re: 
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> EVERYTHING IS CREATED BY OUR POSTULATES ALONE !! 
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> That is one of  the biggest lies and traps  in scn and TROM.
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> It is one reason why no one will or can  go clear in scientology  or TROM. 
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> But instead, spin themselves down into a more tangled, insane  fuck up, 
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> then argue to defend their incompetence, ignorance, stupidity  and the right 
> to be that way.
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> I am astounded and bewildered why no one has ever realized this before?
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> Especially those who have been into this stuff  for a life time and  think 
> they know so much about this subject and even think they are superior, high 
> horse authorities that argue that "right is wrong" and "wrong is right",  and 
> disdainfully talk down to others and condemn, abuse, ridicule  and scorn and 
> berate.
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> Shakespeare so wisely and eloquently articulated: 
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> Oh, proud man, proud man, most assured about what he is least aware.
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> David
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>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:55 PM, The Resolution of Mind list 
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>> Hi Aarre,
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>> Those are great questions indeed! And it would be fun to know the answer. I 
>> dont know much about external viewpoints other than the reports of others 
>> though.
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>> Maybe whoever has great external viewpoints or other special perceptions 
>> prefer to not talk (or use) much of it for good reasons or something.
>> 
>> Marcus
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>> Em 24 de mai de 2016 2:17 AM, "The Resolution of Mind list" 
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>>> Marcus,
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>>> I don't remember !    
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>>> I do have a question and statement.
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>>>                                                Dennis - Level 5 done ?
>>> EVERYTHING IS CREATED BY OUR POSTULATES ALONE !!   This datum rings more 
>>> true to me than nearly any other datum that I have.   If Dennis finished 
>>> level 5,   was able to exit his viewpoint from the physical universe at 
>>> will like a light switch on or off,  Nirvana,  Native State,   his original 
>>> beingness,  etc.,   then why did he find it beneficial to create stronger 
>>> postulates to have bad eyesight than to create good eyesight during his 
>>> latter body years ??   ??    ??    ??   ??                    Why does this 
>>> barrier serve him so well in his parttime gamesmanship ?  You must have 
>>> freedoms,  goals,  and barriers to have any game according Lafayette Ronald 
>>> Hubbard.  While out the top,  to have a fun game,  why have a bad body;  
>>> that's no fun !!
>>> 
>>> Mystery upon question upon more mystery .
>>> 
>>> Aarre Peltomaa
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>>>> Multiple times on this list I've came across people, some critics, some 
>>>> favorable, saying  that Dennis didn't complete his level 5 in Trom. Some 
>>>> even saying that he didn't ever had started it (L.5) - I think J. Methven 
>>>> says this in a post. That always seemed kind of wild and contradictory 
>>>> with the book itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this explained in any of the Trom's available materials? And is there 
>>>> anything detailing Dennis' case evolution? I think I've read/listened to 
>>>> at least 90% of all of Trom's supplementary materials and I've never got 
>>>> anything that would clarify this subject.
>>>> 
>>>> Plus, is there any reliable material explaining how Ron (LRH) developped 
>>>> his own case and all of his early insights (before he wrote dianetics)?
>>>> 
>>>> I think anything relating to those subjects would be amazing reads.
>>>> 
>>>> Marcus
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