Blainer) If you insist on looking at everything as being "either/or," "black and white, what you say is probably true. But the Bible obviously has much to recommend it. IT SEEMS TO ME YOU ARE IGNORING THIS CLEARLY OBVIOUS FACT FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT. For instance, the Bible gives a detailed account of the ordinance of the bread and the water being partaken of in remembrance of His blood which was shed for us, and His body, which died for us. This is a beautiful account. Many Protestant churches seek to keep this ordinance, and to the extent that they understand it, no doubt it does some good. If they were to accept the BoM as the word of God, they would understand it even better, since it is very plain in the BoM what the ordinance is all about, even to the point of specifying two fixed prayers used with it, and showing clearly the relationship between this ordinance and the ordinance of Baptism.
"The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ORDINANCE, broken the everlasting covenant. "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left." (Isaiah 24: 5-6) This prophecy is about our times. The BoM is also about our times. It is God's warning to the peoples of the earth to return to the true doctrines and ordinances of Jesus Christ. On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:44:33 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blainer wrote: > > Here is what the BoM says for all to read. (1 Nephi 28-29): > > 28) Wherefore, thou seest that after the book hath gone forth > through > > the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many > plain > > and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of > the > > Lamb of God (undoubtedly a reference to the New Testement, and > possibly > > the OT). > > 29) And after these plain and precious parts were taken away it > goeth > > forth unto all the nations of the Gentiles; and after it goeth > forth > > unto all the nations of the Gentiles, yea, even across the many > waters > > which thou hast seen with the Gentiles which have gone forth out > of > > captivity (to America, i.e. the Pilgrims, many other settlers), > thou > > seest--BECAUSE OF THE MANY PLAIN AND PRECIOUS THINGS > > WHICH HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE BOOK, which were plain > > unto the children of men, according to the plainess which is in > the Lamb > of > > God--BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS WHICH ARE TAKEN OUT > > OF THE GOSPEL OF THE LAMB, an exceeding great many do stumble, > > yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them. > > > > Please note it does not condemn the Bible as being a tool of > Satan. It > > condemns the removal of things that could have led to a clearer > > understanding of the gospel for many people. > > The passage does much more than just condemn the removal of things. > It > specifically says that because of the altered state of the Bible, an > "exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath > great > power over them." In other words, the Bible causes an exceeding > great many > people to stumble and come under Satan's power. Now is this God's > work or > Satan's work, to bring people under Satan's power? Obviously, it is > Satan's > work. So is the Bible in its present form God's tool or Satan's > tool? If > it brings an exceeding great many people under the power of Satan, > then > obviously it is Satan's tool. How can you possibly argue otherwise? > What > is the object which brings people under Satan's power? It is the > Bible in > its present form, with all its "missing parts." > > Now I'm glad to see that you do not believe that the Bible does not > bring > people under the power of Satan. However, if you are honest, you > must > reject the Book of Mormon to hold to such a position. I don't see > any way > that the Book of Mormon can be interpreted here other than > condemnatory of > the Bible in its present form. If you care to attempt an > alternative > explanation, I'd like to hear it, but just saying that the passage > only > condemns the removal of things is to be blind to what the passage > says. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you > have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
