� Peter Peterson wrote:
> Dear Perry, > I agree with you that by accepting Jesus we throw ourselves to the mercy of > the court.� I agree that these kinds of gifts ( grace, salvation, lose, > etc..) CANNOT BE EARNED.� But I still believe that keeping God's law is > required for salvation...- God is the BOSS and if you want to work for Him, > you will have to FOLLOW HIS COMPANY POLICY! > � Also,� I do want to make a differentiation (is that a word?) here between > commandment-keeping and works of law- THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.� The > Torah tells us to remember the stranger, widow, fatherless, etc. in the > land.� It does not command us to do anything specific in this regard, just > to be mindful of them and to help them where possible.� The offering up of > freewill offerings to God is a WORK OF THE LAW.� This work is HOLY, JUST, > and GOOD.� However, it is not REQUIRED for being Torah observant.� Other > offerings for sin, and daily sacrifices and all were required to be made > continually (but of course that is our Savior's job and business today). > The command to "do no murder!"� was a command.� It did not, however make > anyone more righteous in regard to law observance if, for instance, a man > refrained from going out and murdering somebody that day.� He was obviously > in the wrong, however, if he did kill someone that day.� There was a > difference between the two things, however.� One was a command, the other > was a prescribed "work of law" (the freewill offering). > � Does it make you anymore righteous to abide in either?� NO! > � Is it it good to give freewill offerings and not hate your brother?� Yes. > � Is it not even commanded now by Jesus to love your enemies? > � It would be great to have your thoughts on this DaveH, DAVEH:� Thanx for the invitation to comment, Peter.� I pretty much agree with what you said above.� However, let me take it a step further. ��� IMHO, the Lord's atoning sacrifice applies to those who enter a covenantal relationship with God.� Those who do not wish to 'accept' him ----or in other words, enter a covenant with him---- are not going to find themselves in heaven with him, which to me is the ultimate 'salvation'.� If one thinks of a covenant as being a two way contract, Jesus has promised salvation to those who enter this covenant.� As long as we 'do his will', he is bound to keep his end of the contract/covenant.� For those who do not keep their covenants, the Lord is not bound. Furthermore.......Keeping our covenants to the Lord is not an effort on our part to work our way to heaven.� Without Jesus, none of what we do would get us there.� Observing our covenants does establish our acceptance of our Lord though.� How else can one truly accept Jesus? > or anyone who > feels inclined to respond. > -Peter Peterson -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ � ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
