Re: [TruthTalk] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life.

[Marlin Halverson]

Dear Michael D.:  The scriptures you are using were all written to Sabbath keeping fellowships.  If Paul was out to change God's Law, there would have been a council called together on the matter, just as there was for the controversy about circumcision.  Paul was using Sabbath keeping to teach deeper concepts and to warn about unbelief.  There is not even an inference that Paul sought to abolish Sabbath observance.  The rest by analogy that Paul spoke of is yet in the future (Heb 4:11).  Paul could not build an analogy upon something that did not exist.  He was speaking to a Sabbath keeping audience.   HEB 4:3     For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I             have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although             the works were finished from the foundation of the world. HEB 4:4     For he spake in a certain place of the seventh [day] on this wise,             And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. HEB 4:5     And in this [place] again, If they shall enter into my rest. HEB 4:6     Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and             they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of             unbelief: HEB 4:7     Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so             long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice,             harden not your hearts. HEB 4:8     For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have             spoken of another day. HEB 4:9     There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. HEB 4:10    For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his             own works, as God [did] from his. HEB 4:11    Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall             after the same example of unbelief. ----- Original Message ----- From: michael douglas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The relationship between Torah observance and eternal life. Michael D:   I think we may have some faulty thinking clouding the waters here guys.  Think about what you are saying Michael.  Sabbath means seventh.  If you have no sabbath day, you got a six day week, and somebody has to come up with a new calender.   Michael D: Terry, the issue is that the Sabbath Day as a requirement of God was a shadow. Hebrews 4 reveals the true sabbath. The eternal Sabbath: that's rest in Jesus. Please read it carefully. Paul says one man regards one day above the other. Another regards all alike.  Let everyman be persuaded in His own heart. See your own words below...   Marlin, you are quoting scripture that was spoken to prople under the law, by Jesus, who also kept the law, because all this was prior to the resurrection.  Funny, Jesus never said that he was doing away with the Sabbath.  But you insist that he did.  Now, supposedly after "the law was nailed to the cross" as you assume, so that you may justify worship on the day of the Sun god, notice what his followers did:   LUK 23:56   And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested             the sabbath day according to the commandment.