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DAVEH: I think you are missing the point of my question, Judy. Being all knowing and powerful, why did he not simply bind Satan (I assume you believe he has the power to do so) and put an end to the misery and suffering many mortals experience.From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>DAVEH: No problem, Judy. After sleeping on it last night,I may have a better way of explaining myself this morning.So, I'll reword it in another way.As I understand Protestant theology, God created Satan and knew what Satan would do. He also created Adam and Eve and knew what they were going to do. Unless God intended for Adam/Eve to 'fall', why do Protestants place them in a situation where he knew they would fall? Or better yet, why did God create Satan, knowing all the trouble he would ultimately cause?jt: God didn't create Satan to do what he did; nor did he create Adam and Eve to do what they did but it happened. However, God made provision for it before the foundation of the world so He was two steps ahead.
If God is all knowing, and all powerful then it would seem like either he made a mistake, or he intended that sin and failure be a part of our life.
jt: Or He saw the end result as worth the risk/price.
I think everybody agrees that he doesn't make mistakes, so why do Protestants think sin is good for us?DAVEH: Apparently Terry does........jt: No God doesn't make mistakes and I don't know any Protestants who think sin is good for us, do you know some who actually think this way Dave?
"If you did not know how evil Satan is, you would never have
any way to comprehend how good God is."
Yes, I know......Protestants don't believe sin is "good for us", but I don't know how else to word it. Apparently there is a 'good' purpose for sin.......I'm just curious what value Protestants find in sin.DAVEH: Hmmmmmm.......I find that to be an interesting comment.......jt: I guess I am protestant because I'm not rcc
but I don't find any good in sin, I just accept that it is a fact of life, that I was born with that kind of an inheritance. It took me a while to learn that Jesus had paid the price for me to be free from sin and reconciled to God because IMO generationally our thinking has become so skewed that today most protestants don't have a problem with what God calls sin. The fruit of sin is more sin, it's an ongoing cycle into decadence and destruction.DAVEH: I understand that, Judy. I'm trying to go a step further to find out what purpose God feels it serves for us to experience sin, misery and agony. He had the power to prevent it in A&E's day, and he could stop it now, but for some reason he has not. I'm trying to figure out what Protestants think that reason is.
As for David murdering Uriah. I know in our natural thinking we excuse him by saying he didn't actually do it; but God held him responsible in 1 Kings 15:5 we are told "David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." It took David a year and a visit from the prophet to repent but when he did his repentance was deep (see Psalm 51).DAVEH: Welllllllllllll.......you are going to drag me into this tangent, eh! That's OK......I'll just make a brief comment about it. IMHO, I do not equate "the matter of Uriah the Hittite" with cold blooded murder, as you implied. Scripture does not use the term "murder" or similar, so I find it curious that many Christians connote it that way. Seems to me like they (you) may be reading more into it than what was stated.
I have a question - are you really a Mormon and if so how so?DAVEH: LOL......Forgive me for laughing, but I forgot that you are rather new to TT. Yes, I'm LDS (Mormon). I've been a member for nearly 48 years. I'm not sure how to answer your "how so" question though. Did you have a specific question in mind?
Grace and Peace,--Judy
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