Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

[Dave]

Terry Clifton wrote:  No suggestions.  I am stating plainly that God has given you an option.  Love sin, or love Him.  If there was no option, the Church would be the slave of Christ rather than the bride. I assume that you love someone now, or have in the past.  Do you want that person to love you because they have that option, or would you prefer that they had no choice? DAVEH:  I think most folks would prefer their loved ones suffer no pain or misery.  I'm trying to figure out what reasons Protestants think pain or misery (caused by the Devil) is 'good' for us.   Otherwise......why would he (God) simply not eliminate it.  Being free of the influence of sin would hardly cause us to be slaves.   Or do you disagree?   You are made in His image.  Do you find it odd that you and God have something in common? DAVEH:   Sin???  I doubt you believe that, Terry.  Seems simple to me, but then, what does an old redneck know? I am not certain just what a protestant is. DAVEH: Maybe I erred thinking you were one. I can't find it in the Bible.  DAVEH:   Hmmmmmm......perhaps it's an attitude!!!    :-)  Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?   Terry Clifton wrote: DaveH:It's so simple that most people miss it!  If you did not know how evil Satan is, you would never have any way to comprehend how good God is. If you ain't ever seen ugly, how you gonna 'preciate beauty? DAVEH:  Terry.....Are you suggesting God has given us sin so we can appreciate him???  I hope that isn't doctrinal Protestantism.  If it is, it does seem a bit perverse.   Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?  DAVEH:  No problem, Judy.  After sleeping on it last night, I may have a better way of explaining myself this morning.  So, I'll reword it in another way.      As I understand Protestant theology, God created Satan and knew what Satan would do.  He also created Adam and Eve and knew what they were going to do.  Unless God intended for Adam/Eve to 'fall', why do Protestants place them in a situation where he knew they would fall?  Or better yet, why did God create Satan, knowing all the trouble he would ultimately cause?     If God is all knowing, and all powerful then it would seem like either he made a mistake, or he intended that sin and failure be a part of our life.  I think everybody agrees that he doesn't make mistakes, so why do Protestants think sin is good for us?  Yes, I know......Protestants don't believe sin is "good for us", but I don't know how else to word it.   Apparently there is a 'good' purpose for sin.......I'm just curious what value Protestants find in sin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave: Got to leave this morning, I'll study these questions and get back to you later today. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.