David Miller wrote:

> DaveH wrote:
> > If God is all knowing, and all powerful then it would
> > seem like either he made a mistake, or he intended that
> > sin and failure be a part of our life.  I think everybody
> > agrees that he doesn't make mistakes, so why do Protestants
> > think sin is good for us?  Yes, I know......Protestants don't
> > believe sin is "good for us", but I don't know how else to
> > word it.   Apparently there is a 'good' purpose for sin...
> > I'm just curious what value Protestants find in sin.
>
> The purpose of earth is not to show the value of sin, but to show the
> exceedingly wicked results of sin.

DAVEH:  Huh?!?!?!?!   That's the reason we are on earth....to learn not to sin???   
That does seems a bit convoluted to me, DavidM.  It would be similar to me teaching my 
kids not to do wrong by tossing them in a prison with a bunch of thieves, murderers,
rapists and other despicable creatures so my kids could learn first hand the things I 
am teaching them are bad.  The chances of my kids coming out unscathed are 
unimaginably small to nil.  I find it hard to believe our Heavenly Father is putting 
us in
this situation just to teach us what happens when we sin.  Is this just your 
perception, or is it common thinking within Protestantism?

> It has pleased God to demonstrate to
> all his creation, men on earth as well as angels in heaven, that his
> ways are so righteous that men will follow his ways by faith, without
> proof, even at the risk of ridicule and great persecution against
> themselves.  The real purpose is to show the fellowship of the church
> that comes out of the world system, that separates themselves and follow
> him, having never seen him.  Such a testimony is powerful, and also in
> those who walk by faith, an eternal virtue of faith and trust is refined
> in them to such a degree that God will be able to glorify them in a
> greater way than he has ever done before, without them making the
> mistake of Lucifer and going into rebellion against the Godly authority
> and order that has been instituted by God.

DAVEH:  I still don't understand why (Protestants don't think) it would have not been 
easier for God just to not have created Lucifer in the first place, assuming he (God) 
knew the problems Satan would cause.

> Consider the following passage which shows how the mystery of the church
> of Jesus Christ teaches all the principalities and powers in heavenly
> places:
>
> Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given,
> that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of
> Christ; And to make all men see what is the FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY,
> which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created
> all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that NOW UNTO THE
> PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS IN HEAVENLY PLACES MIGHT BE KNOWN BY THE
> CHURCH THE MANIFOLD WISDOM OF GOD,

DAVEH:  In my opinion, Protestantism fosters the mystery/mysterious aspect of 
theology.  The intent of the gospel is to answer the mysteries, yet it appears there 
is more mystery within Protestantism.

> According to the eternal purpose
> which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: In whom we have boldness and
> access with confidence by the faith of him. (Ephesians 3:8-12 KJV)
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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