----- Original Message -----From: DaveSent: 12/14/2003 3:04:57 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?Dean Moore wrote:
Your position is indefensible from a Biblical standpoint.
DAVEH: If the Bible says the thief went to paradise, why would one want to add to that and suggest he also went to heaven? Isn't that an extrapolation that may not be true since the Bible is silent on it? Why do many Christians assume that the thief was "saved" from such a simple statement with little else to go by?Dean writes:I realize that Mormonism teach of many heavens-taken incorrectly for Paul"s statement of the 1 Cor. 5:40 with other teachings added-can be a confusing issue to you DaveH but look at it this way-The thief went up in the right direction-and not down in the wrong direction-In this perspective it is simple-and He wasn't even baptized. Any claim that he was baptized before the cross is nullified as one is saved then baptized to show their faith in Christ-not baptized and then saved as the baptism would be a lie.Mormonism -can't even get baptism correct. Baptism alone does not save.As per your remark about me adding to the Bible concerning the thief-There is more credence to support my belief of the thief going to heaven then your theory of him never getting to heaven.Hear the words of Jesus Himself John17:24Father, I will that they also,whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am: that they may behold my glory...Jesus is in heaven-He has his glory-the thief believed and confessed to be a sinner unto repentance(fulfilled the requirements set forth).Hence He is with Jesus in heaven and he wasn't even baptized. Once one stays in the Bible it is so simple a child could understand-How many years did the Mormons take to teach you the way to salvation?
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