David Miller wrote:
> From that time many of his disciples went back, and 
> walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, 
> Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, 
> Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal 
> life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, 
> the Son of the living God. (John 6:66-69 KJV)

Judy wrote:
> I'm not speaking about the above which happened when Jesus 
> told the people they would have to eat his flesh and drink 
> his blood. I am talking about doing the works of Jesus which 
> he said we would do -  and greater.  

But take note that Jesus spoke these things right after the feeding of
the five thousand.  And Jesus makes it VERY CLEAR that they were not
following him because of the miracles.  Rather, they were following him
because he fed them.  

Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek
me, NOT BECAUSE YE SAW THE MIRACLES, but because ye did eat of the
loaves, and were filled. (John 6:26 KJV)

Judy wrote:
> I know of ministries who are doing this and 
> people seek them out, they come from across 
> the country and even from overseas - and 
> after receiving ministry from Jesus they then 
> choose to believe and follow Him because of 
> love without any need for rebuke.  

But take note of the teaching of Jesus.  Jesus said that an evil and
adulterous generation seeks after miraculous signs.

I readily agree with you that people will get stirred up and follow
someone because of miracles.  I've seen this myself, but the motives of
those who follow because of miracles are not always pure.  I'm trying to
help you see that with John 6.

The bottom line is that the message of repentance and rebuke IS part of
the gospel of Jesus Christ.  I agree with you about love too, but put
them together.  To eliminate rebuke and the message of repentance is to
change the gospel into something other than what Jesus preached.

There will be times when the crowds gather around.  Believe me, these
preachers on the list know what I am talking about.  Some of us have
experienced this but I suspect you have not.  There are also times when
the crowds go away.  Jesus experienced all of this.  Don't think that
because some go away that they must not be doing it the way Jesus did.
Jesus experienced BOTH the gathering of crowds and the crowds leaving
him.  Do you understand this and agree with me?

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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