David Miller wrote:
> Perry wrote:
> > What is going on? If my preacher got up before the
> > congregation and claimed something that totally contradicted
> > scripture, I would be upset and would certainly confront
> > him about the issue until it was resolved, one way or
> > the other.
>
> To DaveH & Blaine:
>
> How do Mormons typically resolve difficulties like this?
DAVEH: It is at the discretion of whatever priesthood leadership is in charge of the
meeting where such takes place. Motivated by the HS, he may deal with it publicly,
privately at that time or later in a way however he deems appropriate. There may be
times when he might not even bring it to anybody's attention......such as might happen
if a child were to say something immaturely incorrect. Other times he has the power
(authority) to stop the meeting and correct it on the spot. Or he might deal with
it behind closed doors so as to not embarrass anybody. I am not aware of any
official protocol that deals with such a situation......perhaps Blaine is more
knowledgeable than me though.
> In Judaism it
> may be addressed through discussion right there in the synagogue. In
> Protestant churches they usually want you just to keep your mouth shut,
> but if you could not do that, you must go privately to the pastor to
> address the issue or risk being forcibly thrown out of the assembly.
> How do Mormons resolve blatant contradictions between what is taught in
> your Scriptures and what is taught in church?
>
> I would especially like to hear you two address Kevin's e-mails.
DAVEH: I am reluctant to address much of what Kevin posts. He tends to want to tell
me what I believe, and proceeds to flood any thread I may comment on with so much
'stuff' that I don't have the time to deal with it. Furthermore, I don't feel he
really wants to know what I believe, but rather would prefer to bloody my nose.
> He has
> posted some information that appears to contradict what you have said.
DAVEH: It would not be the first time I've been wrong....nor the last.
> Is there a disconnect between official doctrine of the church and the
> members of the church,
DAVEH: There certainly can be, especially if the member is not very knowledgeable. I
think I've been accused of such a few times......even here on TT. :-)
> kind of like we observe in Roman Catholicism, or
> it there some misunderstanding here that you can clear up?
DAVEH: I think it is a misunderstanding.
> I especially
> am interested in you commenting on your apostle's teachings about the
> fundamentals (Ezra Taft Benson's fundamentals six and eleven), copied
> from Kevin's post below:
DAVEH: I thought I explained it yesterday. Perhaps I didn't make it very clear
though.....I'll try again.
We believe anything revealed by the Lord (whether through the HG or directly via
personal face to face revelation) is considered to be 'scripture'. That is not the
same thing as canonical scripture though. Canon is found within the Standard Works.
Canon has been declared and accepted by the Church as official doctrinal material.
If one of the GAs preaches something, and the HG confirms it to us.....we assume
it is from the Lord. However, that does not necessarily mean that it is considered to
be official Church doctrine.
> FOURTEEN FUNDAMENTALS IN FOLLOWING THE PROPHETS
> By PRESIDENT Ezra Taft Benson
> BYU Devotional Assembly
> Tuesday, February 26, 1980, 10:00 a.m.
> Full speech -
> http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/followingthebrethren.htm
>
> "SIXTH: The Prophet Does Not Have to Say "Thus Saith the Lord" to Give
> Us Scripture. Sometimes there are those who haggle over words. They
> might say the prophet gave us counsel but that we are not obligated to
> follow it unless he says it is a commandment. But the Lord says of the
> Prophet, "Thou shalt give heed unto all his words and commandments which
> he shall give unto you." (D&C 21:4.) And speaking of taking counsel from
> the Prophet, in D&C 108:1, the Lord states: "Verily thus saith the Lord
> unto you, my servant Lyman: Your sins are forgiven you, because you have
> obeyed my voice in coming up hither this morning to receive counsel of
> him whom I have appointed." Said Brigham Young, "I have never yet
> preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may
> not call scripture." (JD 13:95.)"
>
> "ELEVENTH: The Two Groups Who Have The Greatest Difficulty in Following
> The Prophet Are The Proud Who Are Learned And The Proud Who Are Rich.
> The learned may feel the prophet is only inspired when he agrees with
> them, otherwise the prophet is just giving his opinion--speaking as a
> man."
> The LDS Church manual "Gospel Principles" clearly states that the
> inspired words of the living prophet are supposed to be accepted as
> scripture by Latter-day Saints. "In addition to these 4 books of
> scripture, the inspired works of our living prophets become scripture to
> us. Their words come to us through conferences, church publications and
> instructions to local priesthood leaders." - Gospel Principles, p.51-52
> "God made Aaron to be the mouthpiece for the children of Israel, and He
> will make me be god to you in His stead" Teachings of the Prophet Joseph
> Smith, p.363
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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